So then you do have an issue with Juicy avoiding a dark alley at 2AM. What the fukk do you think she's avoiding the alley for? U cant have it both ways. Ugly reality is dudes are still out there raping. U cant expect people to take u seriously when u refuse to look at any angle of an issue that isnt convenient to your stances.
Has the feminist movement made men less manly?
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Its not need any where else either. Keep that shyt on your side of the water.
sad reality is that even when actual women share their experiences and how they feel about issues like this, men STILL deem them invalid based on their "success rate" with other women.
we really got men telling women that they're fukked up human beings, stuck up and other things to shame them for their self care, shyt is crazy and disturbing tbh especially since I grew up believing that kind of thinking was ok.
Manhood is to large extent socially defined i.e. the answer is conditional (on a bunch of things including time and space), it's not the same in Japan in Chad or Norway or San Francisco or Mississippi. It's defined over time, so in 300 years manhood will be how men typically are expected to behave in 300 years. However a lot of people have "long memory", some like arabs treat women as half a man, the same men that hold hands while walking down the street, which would be "non-manly" in the western world. The "stereotypical" definition was created when men where not very different from apes, thereby we're living according to norms created by birdbrains. And on and on, personally I don't give two fukks be however the fukk you feel comfortable being as long as its legal/not harming anyone.
People are making simple ass analogies of such a complex subject, there's people doing PhD's and shyt on these type of questions
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People are making simple ass analogies of such a complex subject, there's people doing PhD's and shyt on these type of questions
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Because it's far more reasonable to expect something bad to happen in a dark alley than at the counter at Starbucks.
That's why you CAN have it both ways.
Brehs stop arguing with the these chicks about "safety" and rapist they're third/fourth wave feminist who subscribe to shyt like this:
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my thinking is this:
If a woman is super drunk at a party and a dude takes her upstairs and fukks her in her drunken stupor, whose fault is it that that happened to her? Hers or his?
If I was to say it was his fault, would you say I was being sexist/a feminist?
I would say this:
It's not about "fault".
He committed a crime and should go to prison.
But she behaved reckless and while it's not her fault she was raped, she should have been more responsible in her actions.
Now people are going to try and twist that into me blaming the girl, but I'm not.
why are you being so childish? you're the one that came in here laughing at someone being afraid of being raped/murdered as if it isn't a valid fear, if you weren't acting like such an ass I would have no problem responding to you but since you want to be rude about I just don't want to argue with you. Excuse me if I'm not in the mood to be insulted and laughed at. I've had guys try to rape me & guys tell me they were going to kill me so this is a sensitive subject for me and since you can't talk about it with being an ass I don't want to talk to you about it.
Somewhere out there a white man has been mugged by a group of black teens.
If that same male was to call the cops on your son & his friends for walking his neighborhood because he was worried about he & his families safety, you'd call him a racist bigot.
That story was a great touch, though. Nice little trump card that will notch you a few points.
Anyway, I'll give you a little advice.
If you're really still and don't move when a male is nearby, sometimes we can't see you.
So it's OK to think something bad can happen, as long as it's not rape? Why? Women don't get raped in dark alleys?
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I bought into the whole androgynous idea for like a semester in college. For those who don't know that means embodying an equal amount of feminine and masculine attributes so that you are no longer seen as exclusively masculine or feminine.
And while Jungian Psychology--which I ascribe to--says that we need to balance ourselves with out opposite to become whole, everything I have experienced and read when it comes to relationships tells me that women want a man who embodies all the truly masculine attributes and very little of the feminine attributes. Women want to be made to feel like women, they can't do that if their man is as feminine as them
And by masculine I mean, strong, assertive, confident, intelligent, dominant, decisive, wise, courageous, who take charge, are leaders and will protect those who are weaker, i.e. Women and children.
However, read The Manipulated Man and you will see that a lot of what passes for "masculinity" in our culture are social constructs contrived by women to make us do what they want us to
And while Jungian Psychology--which I ascribe to--says that we need to balance ourselves with out opposite to become whole, everything I have experienced and read when it comes to relationships tells me that women want a man who embodies all the truly masculine attributes and very little of the feminine attributes. Women want to be made to feel like women, they can't do that if their man is as feminine as them
And by masculine I mean, strong, assertive, confident, intelligent, dominant, decisive, wise, courageous, who take charge, are leaders and will protect those who are weaker, i.e. Women and children.
However, read The Manipulated Man and you will see that a lot of what passes for "masculinity" in our culture are social constructs contrived by women to make us do what they want us to
I would say this:
It's not about "fault".
He committed a crime and should go to prison.
But she behaved reckless and while it's not her fault she was raped, she should have been more responsible in her actions.
Now people are going to try and twist that into me blaming the girl, but I'm not.
when you have to qualify your victim blaming statement by claiming not to blame the victim, you're probably victim blaming.
I don't think we're on the same page here.
I think it's okay to think something bad might happen depending on the situation.
If you're in a battle zone in Iraq, it's reasonable to think that you might get shot.
But if you're freaking out about getting shot at basketball practice in high school, well....come on.
Women don't realistically have any fear of being raped from a dude hitting on her on the corner of 35th and 2nd ave, breh.
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How was it irresponsible? Everyone at a party is there to get blitzed.I would say this:
It's not about "fault".
He committed a crime and should go to prison.
But she behaved reckless and while it's not her fault she was raped, she should have been more responsible in her actions.
Now people are going to try and twist that into me blaming the girl, but I'm not.
I feel like the dude in that situation is at fault. It isn't normal to want to victimize people like that. It isn't male behaviour to pick someone weak out of the crowd and take advantage of them. And yeah its wrong when women act like every man is out to do that but men claim those actions extremely willingly, when it isn't normal at all. Whenever a man is being aggressive or offensive, it's just being a man. When a dude lies, you should have known better. When a chick gets brutalized, she shouldn't have worn certain clothes or been vulnerable around men.
dudes cry about feminism but eat that "big bad man" shyt up and promote it too. You can't promote hypermasculinism and get offended by people classifying you as hypermasculine
I'm just conscious of how things get twisted on the internet with people's circlejerk arguments.when you have to qualify your victim blaming statement by claiming not to blame the victim, you're probably victim blaming.
