Has Sony surpassed Nintendo in 1st party IPs?

[Gizmo_Duck]

Why can't Sony do the same thing with there old school ips?



Maybe it's because the quality of those games don't hold up




People go back and play old dreamcast, sega saturn games, nes, snes, and sega games but playstation games



Most Sony ips are like hot chicks, they are great for the time, a good thrill, a good experience and fun... Then they get some age on them and completely fall off.

No one is paying 60 dollars for a legend of dragoon, arc the lad and socom bundle port.

But they will for a mario 64, sunshine and galaxy port

Praising a company for robbing you in a blind day light is the type of blind loyalty nintendo has garnered by marketing nostalgia.

Hate to break it to you but mario 64 plays like absolute shyt, just like all those games you mentioned. Nintendo fans just don’t care. They will buy dog shyt if it had blue overalls and a red plumber hat

 

[The Mad Titan]

Praising a company for robbing you in a blind day light is the type of blind loyalty nintendo has garnered by marketing nostalgia.

Hate to break it to you but mario 64 plays like absolute shyt, just like all those games you mentioned. Nintendo fans just don’t care. They will buy dog shyt if it had blue overalls and a red plumber hat

 

[Rice N Beans]

Playstation 3 turned around certain death due to Sony's 1st party revolution.

Certain death off the strength of the PS2? C'mon now. If anything the poor internal design and sky high price was a death march way before those games (or lack thereof) are taken into account.

Nintendo continues to be wildly successful with little 3rd party support, with the only real goose egg being the Wii-U. That success is solely off 1st and 2nd party developed games. No GTA on Nintendo. No CoD. No elaborate online ecosystem either. Just Nintendo games are enough.

There is no studio or company on the planet for games that matches Nintendo.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

Certain death off the strength of the PS2? C'mon now. If anything the poor internal design and sky high price was a death march way before those games (or lack thereof) are taken into account.

Nintendo continues to be wildly successful with little 3rd party support, with the only real goose egg being the Wii-U. That success is solely off 1st and 2nd party developed games. No GTA on Nintendo. No CoD. No elaborate online ecosystem either. Just Nintendo games are enough.

There is no studio or company on the planet for games that matches Nintendo.

I think you either confused my standpoint or the chronology of events, breh. You provided reasons as to why it was on a death march and I provided the reasons that it marched itself out of it, which was the games, fool.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

1st party support was so strong yet, nintendo has had 3 failures of consoles in the last 20 years. The GameCube sold 21 mil, the wii-u sold 14 million, and the Nintendo 64 sold 32 mil, together those 3 consoles sold what the last gen xbox sold in total, and people consider the xbox one a failure.

Nintendo has had more duds in the lat 20 years than victories, with the exception being their handheld market, and what do you know the new system that flying off the shelves is a handheld. Nintendo wouldn’t have realistically survived another console generation, which is why they combined their handheld market into their console market, it was their last line of defense.

For all of you who are boasting about Nintendo’s strong first party and loyal fan base, the numbers show that doesn’t exist outside of their handheld market. Their IP’s can’t be that great if they allowed three consoles to fail already.

Sony has never had a failure of console 5 generations deep. The handhelds is another story.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

1st party support was so strong yet, nintendo has had 3 failures of consoles in the last 20 years. The GameCube sold 21 mil, the wii-u sold 14 million, and the Nintendo 64 sold 32 mil, together those 3 consoles sold what the last gen xbox sold in total, and people consider the xbox one a failure.

Nintendo has had more duds in the lat 20 years than victories, with the exception being their handheld market, and what do you know the new system that flying off the shelves is a handheld. Nintendo wouldn’t have realistically survived another console generation, which is why they combined their handheld market into their console market, it was their last line of defense.

For all of you who are boasting about Nintendo’s strong first party and loyal fan base, the numbers show that doesn’t exist outside of their handheld market. Their IP’s can’t be that great if they allowed three consoles to fail already.

Sony has never had a failure of console 5 generations deep. The handhelds is another story.

But Kid Icarus tho...

 

[Chris Cool]

1st party support was so strong yet, nintendo has had 3 failures of consoles in the last 20 years. The GameCube sold 21 mil, the wii-u sold 14 million, and the Nintendo 64 sold 32 mil, together those 3 consoles sold what the last gen xbox sold in total, and people consider the xbox one a failure.

Nintendo has had more duds in the lat 20 years than victories, with the exception being their handheld market, and what do you know the new system that flying off the shelves is a handheld. Nintendo wouldn’t have realistically survived another console generation, which is why they combined their handheld market into their console market, it was their last line of defense.

For all of you who are boasting about Nintendo’s strong first party and loyal fan base, the numbers show that doesn’t exist outside of their handheld market. Their IP’s can’t be that great if they allowed three consoles to fail already.

Sony has never had a failure of console 5 generations deep. The handhelds is another story.

only the vita flopped.


Psp top 10.

 

[Brian O'Conner]

What are the must play nintendo games the last 5 years besides botw?

God of war
Horizon zero Dawn
Last of us
Ghost of tushima
Ratchet and clank
Jack and dexter
Sly cooper
Twisted metal
Socom
Arc the lad
Wild arms
Alundra
Legend of dragoon
Killzone
Jet moto
Uncharted
Syphon filter
Ape escape
Spiderman
Gran Turismo
Wipeout
Parappa
Astrobot
Medivel

The bolded are dead IP and there's a reason for that.

And yes, that Twisted Metal PS3 game and those spin-offs were trash. Hope you like Destruction All-Stars. See that's the difference between me and you broke boys. I dont speak on games unless I've played them. Meanwhile, you weirdos just read TrannyERA and other forums then just repeat shyt knowing damn well you dont play many of the games youre talking about.

But you can also feel free to post receipts to prove I'm lying. Still waiting.

That's the director of bluepoint (demon souls) ... Lod remake is coming..these aren't dead ips because plenty of people would be excited for a new socom or wild arms

No one is asking for a kid icarus game

And why would I steal threads from that place?
You obviously on there to even know

 

[The Mad Titan]

1st party support was so strong yet, nintendo has had 3 failures of consoles in the last 20 years. The GameCube sold 21 mil, the wii-u sold 14 million, and the Nintendo 64 sold 32 mil, together those 3 consoles sold what the last gen xbox sold in total, and people consider the xbox one a failure.

Nintendo has had more duds in the lat 20 years than victories, with the exception being their handheld market, and what do you know the new system that flying off the shelves is a handheld. Nintendo wouldn’t have realistically survived another console generation, which is why they combined their handheld market into their console market, it was their last line of defense.

For all of you who are boasting about Nintendo’s strong first party and loyal fan base, the numbers show that doesn’t exist outside of their handheld market. Their IP’s can’t be that great if they allowed three consoles to fail already.

Sony has never had a failure of console 5 generations deep. The handhelds is another story.

Duds



Nintendo had two separate markets on lock but I'll let you cook though.


You should throw up those handheld numbers along side those console numbers

 

[Brian O'Conner]

Certain death off the strength of the PS2? C'mon now. If anything the poor internal design and sky high price was a death march way before those games (or lack thereof) are taken into account.

Nintendo continues to be wildly successful with little 3rd party support, with the only real goose egg being the Wii-U. That success is solely off 1st and 2nd party developed games. No GTA on Nintendo. No CoD. No elaborate online ecosystem either. Just Nintendo games are enough.

There is no studio or company on the planet for games that matches Nintendo.

You stuck in the past.. gow, lou, hzd are more relevant ips in the gaming world right now

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

Duds



Nintendo had two separate markets on lock but I'll let you cook though.


You should throw up those handheld numbers along side those console numbers

Scroll up, Kid Icarus.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Duds



Nintendo had two separate markets on lock but I'll let you cook though.


You should throw up those handheld numbers along side those console numbers

The Wii is the only successful dedicated gaming console nintendo has had since since 96, thats 3 decades.

What two markets were on “lock”?

I would never argue that nintendo isnt king of the handheld/portable market. But then you gotta start comparing them to android and apple devices not playstations and Xbox’s.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Scroll up, Kid Icarus.

All I'm seeing is numbers exposing y'all again

Assuming the cube sold 20 million the DS sold 154 milly, that's about 174 million total

Which is about the same for the Wii u and 3ds sells

Meaning collectively they were moving systems

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

The DS is the only reason nintendo hasn’t gone the way of sega

 

[ball15life]

1st party support was so strong yet, nintendo has had 3 failures of consoles in the last 20 years. The GameCube sold 21 mil, the wii-u sold 14 million, and the Nintendo 64 sold 32 mil, together those 3 consoles sold what the last gen xbox sold in total, and people consider the xbox one a failure.

Nintendo has had more duds in the lat 20 years than victories, with the exception being their handheld market, and what do you know the new system that flying off the shelves is a handheld. Nintendo wouldn’t have realistically survived another console generation, which is why they combined their handheld market into their console market, it was their last line of defense.

For all of you who are boasting about Nintendo’s strong first party and loyal fan base, the numbers show that doesn’t exist outside of their handheld market. Their IP’s can’t be that great if they allowed three consoles to fail already.

Sony has never had a failure of console 5 generations deep. The handhelds is another story.

Gotta disagree with the bolded.

You're doing numbers gymnastics to fit your argument. Especially with leaving out the Wii which sold 102 million units

The DS is the only reason nintendo hasn’t gone the way of sega

Nintendo as a business knows how to turn a profit. They weren't in danger of going the Sega route. Come on breh.