Good Times is one of the worst shows the black community ever had

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

" just looking out of my window ????...looking how it all looks sad and down

That's what they were saying this whole time!

But yeah, that closing theme was sad and unsettling. Just looking out of my windoooooooow

 

[Adebisi_Said]

The point of the show was to display the actual mindset of people in that predicament, it was supposed to be frustrating to us Black people to watch people hold themselves back, the government hold them back and the community to hold them back. However, the rise to glory was taking too long for John Amos (James) so he quit (it was called a contract dispute, but it was really a like of progress for thr Evans family dispute). Esther Rolle (Florida) dislike the way they pushed JJ to the forefront with his buffoonery, she was initially the lead character in the show. She too was frustrated with the direction the show went, but she had to fulfill her contract. The producers of that show messed up the message that was supposed to be projected,,it was supposed to be a family struggling to the promise land of success, but JJ's character's unexpected stardom brought in bigger ratings....the power of the dollar people. So I'm partially sided with the TS, he's correct, but I enjoyed the show for what it was now that I know the deal.

Mind you it was a Black man, Mike Evans (Lionel, George's son from the Jeffersons) who wrote this show.

Mike Evans created the show (along with Eric Monte from Cooley High). He also did some writing for the show. But he and Monte quit after the second season because they didn't like the direction the show was going in.

David Letterman and Jay Leno also wrote for the show.

 

[Adebisi_Said]

do people realize that james' name was originally henry?

And he and Florida lived on Long Island.

 

[Adebisi_Said]

And what opportunites did they pass up? Moving when james died? Moving when buddy boy broke his knee? What other legit opportunites did they pass up?

Cousin Raymond offered Florida $10,000 to move to a 3 bedroom condo on the North Side. But she turned it down because he was a gambler.

 

[Adebisi_Said]

shyt just got really real with that post lol





now that i think about George jefferson was the realist nikka from that time.
nikka stayed calln crackers honkey and not in the joking way, but we all laughed

That show went downhill when he and Tom Willis became buddies, IMO.

 

[Rawtid]

They almost made it out, until James died (was fired by the producer for arguing about JJ's buffoonery). Also, all their jobs were part-time and living in subsidized housing, your rent is adjusted by your household's gross income. Keep in mind, the show was only 5 seasons long and they weren't all employed until the last two seasons.

One more thing: The writers weren't Jews. The main writer was Mike Evans (Lionel from 'The Jeffersons').​

Ehhh I still think once Keith entered into the picture, they could have moved up. 5 part-time jobs are 2 full-time ones and a part-time.

Cousin Raymond offered Florida $10,000 to move to a 3 bedroom condo on the North Side. But she turned it down because he was a gambler.

fukking Florida!! I swear she just wanted to be the one to pull them out of poverty. Ol' proud ass.

 

[Adebisi_Said]

Ehhh I still think once Keith entered into the picture, they could have moved up. 5 part-time jobs are 2 full-time ones and a part-time.

fukking Florida!! I swear she just wanted to be the one to pull them out of poverty. Ol' proud ass.

actually wrote that episode. LOL

 

[mrken12]

I agree with the OP. Nevertheless, I still enjoy the show but there is some major shucking and jiving on the show.

There were only a handful of 'Black' sitcoms to watch at that time, but NONE of them was as good as Good Times in it's portrayal of the 'Black' family.

That's My Momma
What's Happening
Sanford and Son
The Jeffersons

I watched 'em and laughed, but LIVED and understood Good Times.​

Sanford and Son >> all of those shows.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Sanford and Son >> all of those shows.

S & S was a rip-off of a UK sit-com. Good Times was an American original.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Ehhh I still think once Keith entered into the picture, they could have moved up. 5 part-time jobs are 2 full-time ones and a part-time.

They did 'move up'. I guess I'm the only one in this thread that remembers the series finalé: Keith got a contract with the Bears, JJ got a job as a comic book artist, Micheal went to college, Willona became some type of executive and moved into the same apartment complex that Keith and Thelma went to.​

fukking Florida!! I swear she just wanted to be the one to pull them out of poverty. Ol' proud ass.

She was right, though. Dude wasn't stable enough to keep helping them and Ionno about anyone else, but I'd rather not have to rely on someone else to support me....especially a gambling addict.
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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

nikka stayed calln crackers honkey and not in the joking way, but we all laughed

I guess you forgot he saved the life of a Klansmen.....

FOH.​

 

[Adebisi_Said]

I guess you forgot he saved the life of a Klansmen.....

FOH.​

The show jumped the shark by then. The show should've ended when their grandchild was born.

 

[Rawtid]

I guess you forgot he saved the life of a Klansmen.....

FOH.​

is that the episode when dude said "you should have just let me die" or something like that? I remember that shyt. I was like

 

[Adebisi_Said]

Remember when Florida and James tried to get JJ's one man art show canceled. All because the "Godfather of the Ghetto" Sweet Daddy Williams was his sponsor.

 

[p00rky]

The only character I liked was James