King Kreole

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Democrats are addicted to powerlessness. They had control of the Presidency and both branches of Congress 4 years ago - same as Trump has - and you're in here carrying water for losers.
 

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Democrats are addicted to powerlessness. They had control of the Presidency and both branches of Congress 4 years ago - same as Trump has - and you're in here carrying water for losers.
It takes a Herculean effort to deliver something materially good for the American people and we need to ask ourselves why? I don’t think it’s as simple as democrats = losers or democrats bad.

Why is the system designed for it to be easier for Republicans to govern and destroy shyt?
 

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The problem is yall are so hell bent on blaming democrats for everything you don’t hold republicans or the dumbasses that voted for them accountable for anything. I can say Joe Biden is ass while also appreciating that republicans MAGA and everything associated with them is worse

If you are going to spend the next four years blaming someone else for every bad thing they do atleast throw some variety in there

I'm not even going to address this poster directly because he's incapable of not derailing the thread with multiple irrelevant posts, but I just want everyone else to notice what he's saying here. Because it's a pure distillation of the reason Democrats are such fukking losers. Instead of doing an iota of critical self-reflection, he reflexively bends his back and blames the public. You know, the actual most important stakeholder in a democratic society. Because he has no fundamental understanding of what politics actually is, he wants us to blame the people instead of the powerful.

This is one of the load-bearing diseases of the Modern Liberal mind. They fundamentally detest democracy as much as their right-wing counterparts. Which is why when they fail to create a compelling case to the public for why their vision for the future is better, they immediately give up a start blaming the public for not being wowed by that reheated slop of a policy platform Kamala Harris ran on. They believe the public is subordinate to the Democratic Party. Which is also why they have so easily appropriated the right-wing FAFO mentality as their response to the worst of the harm Trump is enacting on the public. Until this completely servile mentality is eradicated from the decision makers in the Democratic Party, it will continue to spiral into irrelevancy.

That’s where you’re wrong. Practically everyone you argue with is in TLR shytting on Trump Trump daily.

We just can’t do it here because you nikkas act like some scorned women ever since Kamala lost.

You and @Outlaw can’t even get yourselves to criticize her and Biden for all the mistakes they made.

You’re a sports fan. Why are you able to shyt on your team owners, players, coaches, fan base etc, but not a politician?

That is absolutely crazy to me.

We supposed to put up with multiple losing seasons washed up players ( biden) and trades without questioning the gm/owners :scusthov:. Chuck Schumer out here chanting some zesty " we will win" chant, Hakeem sounding like a corporate buffoon citing poems while connelly is a 74 year old dying representation lol.

I think we just argue for arguing sake sometimes.

There is certainly more than enough blame to go around and the Democrats haven't been perfect, they made some MASSIVE blunders, every government does this, however.

Pretending that the right policies can fix this situation is also naive as hell. There will ALWAYS be a massive group of people in America unhappy with life, even if they are living comfortably, because a black or Hispanic person moved next door to them. Pretending there isn't a massive and influential group of people who will never be happy unless they have a race or an immigrant underfoot is the height of stupidity.

Ultimately if folks want to criticise the Dems, start a thread and engage in there. If you want the shyt on leftist who voted or advocated for Trump, start a thread or post in the Leopards ate my face thread.

But the argument about who is more to blame for this situation shouldn't be done in this thread.
 

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It takes a Herculean effort to deliver something materially good for the American people and we need to ask ourselves why? I don’t think it’s as simple as democrats = losers or democrats bad.

Why is the system designed for it to be easier for Republicans to govern and destroy shyt?
I actually agree with you on both points here. It's not just Democrats = Bad. It's that they're bad in a specific way that blinds them to the paths needed to become better. The attitude displayed in here - that it's the voters who are at fault for not accepting the Democrats as their lord and savior - belies a fundamental misunderstanding of electoral politics and neuters any ability to actually grow.

And yes, it's structurally easier for Republicans to destroy shyt, but that doesn't absolve the Democrats of their responsibility to protect society. There are deep-seated faults in the national character due to this country's foundation myths and bipartisan ideological orientation. In order to save whatever is worthwhile in American society, the neoliberal fantasy needs to be rejected and replaced with an ideology that is fervently dedicated to the public good. An ideology that isn't inherently contemptuous of democracy or capitulates when confronted with critical contradictions.
 

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Aide: Mr. President, we might have a problem.

Trump: what now?

Aide: You just fired your nuclear bomb specialists.

Trump: And?

Aide: Well they oversee our nuclear weapons-

Trump: So?

Aide: Well they are pretty important positions-

Trump: I know more about nuclear than anyone ok. My uncle was a professor at MIT.

Aide: Yes you are all knowing but if we don't recall these specialists you will have to be in charge of their duties.

Trump: I would have to work? Bring them back. And blame JP!
 

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I actually agree with you on both points here. It's not just Democrats = Bad. It's that they're bad in a specific way that blinds them to the paths needed to become better. The attitude displayed in here - that it's the voters who are at fault for not accepting the Democrats as their lord and savior - belies a fundamental misunderstanding of electoral politics and neuters any ability to actually grow.

And yes, it's structurally easier for Republicans to destroy shyt, but that doesn't absolve the Democrats of their responsibility to protect society. There are deep-seated faults in the national character due to this country's foundation myths and bipartisan ideological orientation. In order to save whatever is worthwhile in American society, the neoliberal fantasy needs to be rejected and replaced with an ideology that is fervently dedicated to the public good. An ideology that isn't inherently contemptuous of democracy or capitulates when confronted with critical contradictions.
 
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