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But that should be separate from whether we should let people like Vance off the hook by immediately pivoting to blaming Democrats every time a Republican says or does something indefensible.
I don’t disagree with this, but I think this response is due to people saying “you should have voted for ________ or this Wouldn’t be happening,” or “elections have consequences :mjgrin:

That shyt is stupid and I think why people react that way.

Personally, the election is over. We need to focus on how we defeat these oligarchs and create a ideal world.
 

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Two out of the three are racial/ethnic grievances which supports my point and the far rights economic solutions devolves back to race as well
Yes and no? Lol. Trying to put it under the “race” umbrella masks a lot of the actual issues imo (mass migration, terrorism). Remember the far right has been in Europe before and there has been racial issues in Europe before as well however that didnt make the far right parties popular like they are now.
 

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She made several major mistakes outside of things out of her control.

Sidelining waltz
Running a pro Wallstreet corporatist agenda
Not disowning biden on the ecomomy which sucks
Refusing to meet with Gaza protesters, while having several zionist surrogates go to swing states
Running around with Liz cheney


the election was lost by then, but this is more convenient for yall to blame…and not shyt like illegal immigrants or transgender policy
 

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Fascist movements in European have gained momentum due to several economic downturns over the last decade plus. When periods of austerity happen it's easier to blame a subset of people for the citizens problems. Unlike the Europeans, our "liberal" parties would basically be considered conservatives in Europe, and haven't provided 1/10th of the benefits
Voters dont reward voters for pro-labor policy.

its social policy, not economic.
 

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You’re proving my point. The liberal parties have delivered in those European countries yet it’s not enough to stop the far right from rising in power. Economic issues isn’t the reason the far right is growing in power either, it comes down to racial class grievances
Correct. Immigration and trans policy had a much longer drag on the party than 2 weeks of appearances with Liz Cheney.

Kamala had 100 days and people are ignoring the other 4 years.
 

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Of course it does, maybe you're having trouble comprehending what I am saying to you. Fascist movements only become a viable normalized alternative when economic austerity exist. Racism has always existed and will continue to exist, it's able to be used on the mainstage when the average person is struggling financially. You can even convince non racist that a subset of people is the causation to your problems.
Leftists keep axiomatically asserting this on some presumption of equality that doesn’t exist. Why would taking care of the economic welfare of those in precarious situations LESS than Democrats have reward other stresses on immigration? That assumes theres no limit to the amount of money you can spend to stall right wing politics.
 

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Economic austerity is a meaningless term and is completely subjective. America did the best in recovering from the pandemic compared to any other first world nation and that didnt stop Trump from getting elected and Biden being widely unpopular.

Economic conditions are worse now than they were while Biden was President yet Trump has not lost any support from his base. As long as Trump continues to attack “DEI” and deport brown people which satisfies MAGA’s racial grievances he’ll maintain his support. These Trump voters no longer care about inflation, I wonder why?

Trump is also ramming brazen economic austerity and corruption through Americans throat right now by cutting programs, spending while announcing tax cuts for billionaires yet none of his base gives a damn.. I wonder why?

Why does economic implications only apply to liberals who go against racial class interest of the racial majority? Why was DEI so hated?


The common denominator of why Trump gets a pass but Dems have to be perfect is because the Republicans appeal to racial grievances yet Dems try to rise above it.
Right. Europeans weren’t gonna keep accepting conservative muslims and be PAID OFF with “economic reprieve” :heh:

The argument never gets challenged on the absurdity of the paradigmatic dichotomy.
 
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