Pull Up the Roots
Veteran
Voters aren't "subordinate" to the Democratic Party, nor is the voting public to blame for everything. The point is that when someone like Vance says something ridiculous, the conversation should be chiefly about *him.*I'm not even going to address this poster directly because he's incapable of not derailing the thread with multiple irrelevant posts, but I just want everyone else to notice what he's saying here. Because it's a pure distillation of the reason Democrats are such fukking losers. Instead of doing an iota of critical self-reflection, he reflexively bends his back and blames the public. You know, the actual most important stakeholder in a democratic society. Because he has no fundamental understanding of what politics actually is, he wants us to blame the people instead of the powerful.
This is one of the load-bearing diseases of the Modern Liberal mind. They fundamentally detest democracy as much as their right-wing counterparts. Which is why when they fail to create a compelling case to the public for why their vision for the future is better, they immediately give up a start blaming the public for not being wowed by that reheated slop of a policy platform Kamala Harris ran on. They believe the public is subordinate to the Democratic Party. Which is also why they have so easily appropriated the right-wing FAFO mentality as their response to the worst of the harm Trump is enacting on the public. Until this completely servile mentality is eradicated from the decision makers in the Democratic Party, it will continue to spiral into irrelevancy.
It's not "detesting democracy" to recognize that voters still have agency in their decisions, either. People made the conscious choice to vote for Trump and Vance, and instead of scrutinizing *his* comments, we're trying to shift the discussion to how it's somehow the Democrats fault. That's unnecessary deflection.
We all, or at least, we all *should* understand that Democrats need to do a hell of a better job at offering actual policies to people to turn out their vote, and that that's a discussion worth having. But that should be separate from whether we should let people like Vance off the hook by immediately pivoting to blaming Democrats every time a Republican says or does something indefensible.