Orlando Anderson got rat packed by Suge, 2pac, and MOB Pirus. He came back and shot up Suge and 2pac's car, killing 2pac. Then Suge Knight allegedly paid Anderson a lot of money to say Suge didn't take part in his beat down. Then he sued Afeni Shakur for defamation or something. All this and the guy was still living his life. He wasn't killed by Suge's people, the MOB, or over Pac's death. He was killed by another Crip over some street shyt.
That doesn't disprove anything. Trying to emulate something or someone doesn't mean you're going to successfully do it. Also, emulating criminals doesn't really end up in success anyways. You successfully emulate them you usually end up in prison or dead.
You're right about it not necessarily equaling dishonor but 2pac was reckless, most of the time, in a bad way. He helped beat down Orlando Anderson over some shyt he had no business involving himself in! Not just 2-3 years prior he was involved in getting one of the Hughes brothers jumped. Over what? If he had some problems with the Hughes brothers, he should have handled it on his own, and not needed Rollin 40s to help him out. He talked shyt to the GD's for killing that little kid but at his own concert back in Marin it ended with a little kid getting shot in the head. Pac gets mad at GDs for killing a little kid, what the fukk does he think gangs do? And what does he do at 25? He starts claiming a Compton gang. Pac, according to former Deathrow employees was even knocking engineers out over rewinding the reel to far.
Why was he talking crazy with Henchman to begin with? According to Henchman's people it was because he was talking crazy to Henchman. Then again Henchman himself doesn't sound too trustworthy talking about he punked Pac at the House of Blues with Compton Pirus all around him. The point is though, that it seems like Pac brought a lot of it on himself. He knew Haitian Jack was bad news but he wanted to be around him because he liked the additional recognition and respect he would get associating with a big shot.
He's criticizing Puff for letting "eastcoast gangters" extort him, and he's considered brave for talking shyt to those dudes, but he came to the westcoast and put himself in the same position with Deathrow. Supposedly Suge himself was/is involved in the rapper extortion game.
Biggie was killed, not cause of Pac but because Suge didn't want Puffy to "win." Suge lost his star artist, so he made sure Puffy lost his.
We can make assumptions on what was going through Pacs head but that's all they are,im just giving my perspective based on what 2pac said at least in situations where theres no reason for him to lie....I feel like that call with Monster Kody explains it all....2pac on that call admitted TO A GANGSTER that he got clapped because he wasn't thinking like a gangster that night at Quad....The only reason yall refuse to believe that is because yall are stuck believing only a street nikka would not take shyt off Jimmy Henchman,so Pac must have been emulating street nikkas.....When that is not the case and I gave credit to his panther upbringing for having heart and yall act like that's unbelieveable or something
If Pac was trying to be a gangster I'm not sure why he would admit to another gangster he respected that he took the L at quad because he is not a gangster...Dudes that's acting don't have as many court dates,jail time,attempts on they life,near death experiences as Pac did before they learn they lesson....Pac obviously couldn't help himself...Its insulting to say dude was acting rather you agree with his actions or understand them or not.
And we dont know why Pac jumped on Orlando,he likely knew about the hit on his life....As bad as Pac DIDNT want to go back to jail after he'd been for real, its hard to say for certain that it didn't have anything to do with him...He could've tapped a goon on the shoulder and told them to handle it,is that less reckless and honorable to put another mans life in danger over YOUR beef?
And I already said Pac did some dumb shyt and bought stuff on himself he could've avoided,cant say on all of them I blame em for reacting how he wanted to act based on his own principles...I'd blame him for not taking advice that was wise in hindsight,but he said he wanted to help two reformed criminals go legit with Haitian and Jimmy...Can you say they didn't look like they weren't trying to go legit?Thinkin they lived a glamourous life don't mean Pac was trying to look like a big shot...You talking like he was shouting these nikkas out on records like your favorite east coast rappers do CONSTANTLY...he was presumed to be crazy himself by this time,who did he need to look like a tough guy too..when his reputation was already that to the average nikka in America.
Now can you explain how Bigie is not the cause of his own death at all but Pac is?Hanging out with mobsters and crips,paying crips,shouting out crips on record,talking shyt in magazines and records,getting rappers trailers shot up,diss records with Pac subliminals in LA...Puff or Biggie coulda got it and I don't see how you can say they wasn't as "reckless as Pac in bringing they own death on themselves