For the most part, college is a waste of time

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Working in finance for a few years until I saved enough and acquired enough contacts to start my own company. I never wanted a "career".
If you never wanted a career then why did you go to college? Do you plan on just having jobs?
 

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College is for suckers...if I have work ethic and common sense... U can eat
 

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You're right. But I'm not interested in working for anybody. I rather strike out on my own.
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I'm not explaining myself to all you dudes :heh:

If you don't agree, cool. Go live your lives. And I'll live mine. We want two very different things.
no offense, but it sounds like you went to college and got a degree in a field, but didn't plan on what you were going to do & now your made/upset/annoyed, because you're not making money like the family members you mentioned.
I have a degree in criminal justice, then decided I didn't want to be in that field, now I also have a degree in dental hygiene. And once NYS decided to stop being slow af, I'll have my DH license :blessed:
 

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Even STEM majors are beginning to be a waste, like biology
Not hardly! Research jobs are highly available and offer money for schooling. People really don't network enough within their majors and waiting until graduation is too late.
 

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Even STEM majors are beginning to be a waste, like biology

we're getting to the point where basically a bachelors isn't enough and a masters is what a bachelors used to be. minus the cost.

Stem majors still have an advantage but Biology is like the lowest stem. Biology is like a regular major
 

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I did the "safe" thing and went to school. I'm the most "educated" person in my family. My cousin is 4 years younger, a college dropout and runs a $500K business with an office and 10 employees doing what he loves......at 23. My brother who was a convict had a successful moving company at 26 before dying. My uncle never went to college and makes mid six figures running his own electrician service. It's funny because I'm "the most educated" :beli: Id rather start something Im passionate about and make an okay living than to do what I'm doing for another year.

Education comes in many forms not just in academics.
 

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I would encourage them to follow whatever dream they have, join the military, or get certified in a trade. I did say, if they have a dream to be a engineer, doctor, teacher then I would encourage them to go. I'm not going to sell my children the dream that a college degree is the path to wealth and job stability because it is not. It is a way to saddle you don with a mountain of debt, that will take your entire life to pay off. And for what? So you can sit at a desk and push paper all day, everyday for 40+ years, then retire and die.
That dream stuff is for the birds...id encourage my kids to have formal education and plan on reducing their debt to a maximum. The problem is not the education is parents and kids not preparing for paying for school. Not searching for bursaries and scholarships. Trust me a lot of free money out there that people dont take advantage of because they can't be bothered to fill out a form.
 

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I know this is going to be looked down upon, but major opportunity lies with people who are willing to work for a while, for free

We ain't talking like a week now. I'm saying like 6+ months. I personally find it to be a great option because it gives you a bit more freedom to learn the skill set you are interested in, rather than paying for 4 years college, learning blue collar trades that don't leave much room for progression

Just something to consider.

I'm doing it for android development and by the end of the year it should put me well within the conversation of a 60k+ year job. But right now, I'm doing it for 0.
 

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OP has a point. Coming from a guy who has a bachelors and masters Degree college is a waste of time, except in one instance. If you need the degree in order to get a license or certification to practice doing something then you absolutely must have a college education. So for example you need it to be a lawyer, or a doctor or even a nurse. Most other things it's a waste especially business related fields. Those 4 years in college you could have worked for somebody getting 4 years of relatable real experience , perhaps even became a manager and supervisor. College does not prove anything in the work field..half the thing you learn in college you forget or never use. I rather work for a company for 4 years , get experience learning office politics and excel spread sheets and have no debt than go graduate with a business degree and 40k in loans and no experience hoping somebody will take a chance on me to only start work making less than the person that went the other route.
This isn't 100% true.
There are companies out there that have degree requirements for some positions. They don't care that you have 4 years of work experience with no degree. If you don't have a degree, they aren't going to put you into their management track program which is to start off as an assistant manager and being a protege under a mentor, i.e. higher level manager. Now, you aren't completely SOL with four years of work experience, but it takes way longer to move up the ladder, so it's going to suck when Bo-bo, the college graduate clown, surpasses you on the corporate ladder climbing race. You can make it to the top, but you have to be in it for the extra long haul.
 

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I agree on the job training is better.

On some Leonardo DiCaprio in catch me if you can.

I didn't go to school for what I'm doing now but in 3 months I got it.

Hell let me sit in a cockpitfor three months and i could fly and land a plane.
 

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I know this is going to be looked down upon, but major opportunity lies with people who are willing to work for a while, for free

We ain't talking like a week now. I'm saying like 6+ months. I personally find it to be a great option because it gives you a bit more freedom to learn the skill set you are interested in, rather than paying for 4 years college, learning blue collar trades that don't leave much room for progression quickly,

Just something to consider.

I'm doing it for android development and by the end of the year it should put me well within the conversation of a 60k+ year job. But right now, I'm doing it for 0.

Most people who do not have well off parents cannot afford to work for free. There are lots of jobs that I would love to do for the experience but I just can't.

I need to earn an income.
 
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