For the most part, college is a waste of time

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Working in finance for a few years until I saved enough and acquired enough contacts to start my own company. I never wanted a "career".

Then the thread doesn't apply to you. Like @Fun Sized Pyscho was saying, what were you planning to do with your degree in ECONOMICS? And your reply back is FINANCE then switch that in to your own company. That's more poor planning by yourself than the fault of any college.
 

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You're right. But I'm not interested in working for anybody. I rather strike out on my own.

But you work for someone now right? You're in a good spot because no matter how good a business is, economic inefficiencies can be the downfall. You can start a consultation business on your own, be an independent outside consultant to your cousin and uncle, help them out, have them refer you to other businesses and then boom...you're working on your own as a freelance "economist" or something. It just takes a little hustle.
 

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Then the thread doesn't apply to you. Like @Fun Sized Pyscho was saying, what were you planning to do with your degree in ECONOMICS? And your reply back is FINANCE then switch that in to your own company. That's more poor planning by yourself than the fault of any college.

I'm not explaining myself to all you dudes :heh:

If you don't agree, cool. Go live your lives. And I'll live mine. We want two very different things.
 

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Take out the equivalent of a mortgage to be a wage slave, brehs

Make other people rich all your life, brehs

Think education starts and ends in a classroom, brehs
You don't need a student loan in order to go to college. It's fine if people don't value education, but we need to stop pretending like the average family doesn't have 18+ years to plan for college, right down to the financing and choosing a major. With a combination of scholarships, grants, saving money and a plan, college can be a great experience. People like to wait until their child is in 12th grade and pretend like they didn't know college came after that.

Also researching jobs in the major you want is super easy so you have an idea of what your job prospects are like. Even if you have a crappy major, you have 4 years to network within that major to at least score you some volunteer, real life experience.
 
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:dwillhuh: You understand college isn't solely about the career afterward, right?
The whole point in giving students a plethora of options when they enter college is both for the sake of learning, and to help them figure out what it is they want to do.
My interest in programming and physics grew exponentially alongside my majors that were in entirely different subjects.
If you think college was a waste of time, you either spent the whole time not paying attention, or you're bitter about doing poorly having never actually gone:wow:
 
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You don't need student loan in order to go to college. It's fine if people don't value education, but we need to stop pretending like the average family doesn't have 18+ years to plan for college, right down to the financing and choosing a major. With a combination of scholarships, grants, saving money and a plan, college can be a great experience. People like to wait until their child is in 12th grade and pretend like they didn't know college came after that.

Also researching jobs in the major you want is super easy so you have an idea of what your job prospects are like. Even if you have a crappy major, you have 4 years to network within that major to at least score you some volunteer, real life experience.
:salute:
 

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I disagree with this thread, but if I woulda started my current job straight out of school and skipped college :wow:
 

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Real world skills > a piece of paper

Unless you're going to do something highly specialized like medicine, law (good luck), engineering, then it has value.

Each day formal education diminishes in value for me. I could've did the job I'm doing right out of high school. And even then, I'm not planning on staying in a cubicle for 40-50 years I'm not even planning on doing it past 2015. So what was the point of wasting 5 years of my life in college? At this point it's just a barrier to entry used by companies to weed through their piles of applications.
You have a degree, it's a stepping stone. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth
When you compare yourself to those without a degree, all those people cannot apply to jobs that have a minimum requirement of a bachelor's degree. They are SOL when they try to apply for jobs that have degree requirement. You are 100% right that you can get past the first hurdle.

If you don't want a cubicle job for the rest of your life, then don't worry about it. But if you get one in the start, that's where you need to start. Doesn't mean you'll be there forever. But don't think you can start off a step ahead of everyone else by magic, because you aren't entitled to that. You start off at the bottom like everyone else. If that's in a cubicle, then so be it.

That's one thing. The other thing is you have to be open to moving. Moving to where the jobs are. I cannot expect you to find a job in Poopville USA when jobs are in the decline, people are moving out of the area to get a job, and homes are going up for sale everywhere, and so don't put the blame on your degree not working for you.

You might say, well what do I know about hard times? I graduated at a time when the economy was down. I could not get a job. I lived at home with my parents. Some students I graduated with continued on with getting a graduate degree because they knew that the job market was bad and the master degree would be beneficial. I was sick of school and so I did not want to get an MBA. I did not get a real job for a year and a half. I worked part-time at a mall job in retail. You don't need a degree to be a cashier and about 100% of my co-workers did not have a degree. I sent out a lot or applications/resumes. I got rejected a lot. I got some interviews but didn't fare well. To be honest, I was kind of young and didn't have good answers to their questions. To be honest, I was like, "I just want a job. I have almost no experience."

So, your degree is a stepping stone to getting a masters degree, a law or medical degree. Maybe you don't want that. But in the future, you may want it, then, you won't have to worry about getting the bachelor's degree because you already have it.
Keep your options open. Look in both private sector and public sector jobs. Public sector (local/county/state/federal) jobs pay less but can get you work experience. I was snooty at first and did not want to look at government jobs. I was being picky and choosy, when I should have not been. I was a dumb kid.

Good luck, bruh. Keep your head up.
 
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I have a bachelor's degree and I'm with OP that shyt is overrated sure it makes getting a "normal job" easier but normal jobs are boring as fukk. Also you don't learn how to do your job at college a lot of it is useless writing thesis and jargon that does not even apply to an everyday scenario.
I studied management and one module went off on a tangent on Karl Marx that module hurt my overall grade and that shyt is sociology ain't got shyt to do with running a business.


In fact I could blame my health problems for being on campus my life went backwards since going to university
 

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OP has a point. Coming from a guy who has a bachelors and masters Degree college is a waste of time, except in one instance. If you need the degree in order to get a license or certification to practice doing something then you absolutely must have a college education. So for example you need it to be a lawyer, or a doctor or even a nurse. Most other things it's a waste especially business related fields. Those 4 years in college you could have worked for somebody getting 4 years of relatable real experience , perhaps even became a manager and supervisor. College does not prove anything in the work field..half the thing you learn in college you forget or never use. I rather work for a company for 4 years , get experience learning office politics and excel spread sheets and have no debt than go graduate with a business degree and 40k in loans and no experience hoping somebody will take a chance on me to only start work making less than the person that went the other route.
 
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