For the most part, college is a waste of time
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So close, yet so far.
It still feels like a waste of time some days though, especially with so many poor professors/lecturers.
If these poor professors in the STEM field can't get you anjob, you have the right to body them
Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
Well for me, it helped greatly
Thinking back where I was 10 years ago
But everybody's journey is different
Do you
Thinking back where I was 10 years ago
But everybody's journey is different
Do you
What would you encourage them to do...at 18...with just a high school education...and no "real money"?
Not trying to troll...but to say you would "never" encourage them to go to school isespecially when you seem like an educated person yourself. Nothing guarantees a job..nothing ensures happiness...but if you want your children to have a better chance at being self sufficient, happy, and not sitting at a desk forever, telling them a high school education or a "trade" is not the way to go.
Granted, I went to school and I have a decent job, earning my MBA this week
Going away for college also gives you much better social skills, independence, "living" skills, and a much bigger exposure to different viewpoints, ideas, types of people etc.
I didn't mean to go off on you lol...just not too many engaging topics this morning on the coli
I would encourage them to follow whatever dream they have, join the military, or get certified in a trade. I did say, if they have a dream to be a engineer, doctor, teacher then I would encourage them to go. I'm not going to sell my children the dream that a college degree is the path to wealth and job stability because it is not. It is a way to saddle you don with a mountain of debt, that will take your entire life to pay off. And for what? So you can sit at a desk and push paper all day, everyday for 40+ years, then retire and die.
When you decided to get a degree in economics, what were you planning on doing (as a career)?
Working in finance for a few years until I saved enough and acquired enough contacts to start my own company. I never wanted a "career".
Original thread. Never had this one before.
I get what you saying. College is a BUSINESS that often doesn't benefit the person but the schools who just care about getting tuition money. But that's why you have to pick a good major.Real world skills > a piece of paper
Unless you're going to do something highly specialized like medicine, law (good luck), engineering, then it has value.
Each day formal education diminishes in value for me. I could've did the job I'm doing right out of high school. And even then, I'm not planning on staying in a cubicle for 40-50 years
But even with a "good major" education is being extended like the same job that used to just be a bachelors now entry level degree is a doctorate. This has happened a lot with health care jobs. Like Pharmacist, Physical Therapist, and Nurse Practitioner going to doctorate from masters. And of course they'll have reasoning like the field is changing need to teach more things but I think it's more of a money thing longer schooling means more tuition money
and for the same job title years ago.I guess to each their own
"saddle you down with a mountain of debt that will take your whole life to pay off" is inaccurate in a lot of situations (but completely accurate in many)
I do think that we should encourage our youth to explore many options. Telling them to join the military is fantastic because they can go to college for free...but if you compare going to college and having tangible choices you can go into (Journalism, teaching, science, etc) to a career or a trade where you are working the EXACT SAME job forever because your skills are so specific, that's a bad comparison.
I can only speak for myself. I was a good student and got sports and academic scholarships, some loans, paid for school, have a decent job that is flexible and I've been promoted, and at age 28 I paid my mom's rent for a year with my tax return and plan on retiring her in the next few years. None of which would be possible without a degree.
My mom, on the other hand, has to work jobs that are only local to her for an hourly wage, and has always encouraged me to go to school so I would have more choices. She was right. I make more than my high school educated sister and brother (though both have good steady jobs).
My main point is that deterring someone AGAINST college is some boogeyman shyt. Real talk if you look at the amount of generally successful people, a HUGE determining factor is their level of education (though there are outliers on both sides)
It is a waste of time, for the most part 
the only reason many people go thru with it is because a lot of jobs nowadays require some type of degree as a prerequisite 
That's why I say if you're gonna go, get the least amount of education that you need at the lowest cost possible for an entry level position in your field and work from there
the only reason many people go thru with it is because a lot of jobs nowadays require some type of degree as a prerequisite That's why I say if you're gonna go, get the least amount of education that you need at the lowest cost possible for an entry level position in your field and work from thereEconomics
Research Analyst
I did the "safe" thing and went to school. I'm the most "educated" person in my family. My cousin is 4 years younger, a college dropout and runs a $500K business with an office and 10 employees doing what he loves......at 23. My brother who was a convict had a successful moving company at 26 before dying. My uncle never went to college and makes mid six figures running his own electrician service. It's funny because I'm "the most educated"
Then why don't you join them? You have a cousin that is running a business and you can easily partner with him and say "I can do all of your economic work, I can alleviate X, Y, and Z from your daily operational load and you can focus on expansion...let me spend 5 days with your business and I can come up with an operational economic strategy to help you save/make more money"
Or the same with your uncle.
It sounds like (and this is no diss) you haven't taken any risks. They have taken risks and they have paid off for them. You probably have a decent job and there is nothing stopping you from saving money and taking a risk just like they did. I encourage you (as a fellow breh) to reach out to them instead of comparing yourself to them. You might end up the CFO of a multi-million dollar family run business in the next few years if you are able to put what you learned in college to practical application in one of their businesses.
PewPew
I came from nothing
I agree and disagree
I agree because i am a college dropout and college has never made any sense to me. But thats because since i was 13 i knew i wanted to be an entrepreneur and when i went to GA State they tried to load me up on BS courses so I dipped out and started my own business. Most i made in a year was 75K AFTER taxes, with no degree.
I disagree because its valuable for the people whos personalities fit that environment. People who are good at taking direction and can follow and complete remedial tasks time and time again. For me i didnt want to sit for four years to learn how to run a business when i can just start a business and learn that way. Teach myself for free.
I have a daughter now and I will encourage her to follow her heart/passion no matter where it leads. If that means college i will support her, and if she she wants to do her own thing ill support that too. As long as she aint a stripper or on the corner pushing the Roc like shawn carter, im happy
I agree because i am a college dropout and college has never made any sense to me. But thats because since i was 13 i knew i wanted to be an entrepreneur and when i went to GA State they tried to load me up on BS courses so I dipped out and started my own business. Most i made in a year was 75K AFTER taxes, with no degree.
I disagree because its valuable for the people whos personalities fit that environment. People who are good at taking direction and can follow and complete remedial tasks time and time again. For me i didnt want to sit for four years to learn how to run a business when i can just start a business and learn that way. Teach myself for free.
I have a daughter now and I will encourage her to follow her heart/passion no matter where it leads. If that means college i will support her, and if she she wants to do her own thing ill support that too. As long as she aint a stripper or on the corner pushing the Roc like shawn carter, im happy
BaldingSoHard
Veteran
What would you encourage them to do...at 18...with just a high school education...and no "real money"?
START YOUR OWN BUSINESS!! Duh.
I do love me some coli sometimes.You're right. But I'm not interested in working for anybody. I rather strike out on my own.