For Interns, All Work and No Payoff

[Wild self]

Using your logic, people shouldn't get into any job market period, because the supply will eventually devalue them. Even though we have a shortage of nurses and doctors, we shouldn't tell people to go into it because the supply will devalue them. EVERY market of employment carries the risk of being saturated. So what are you supposed to tell people?

When the supply actually IS more than the demand, THEN we can tell people to move on to other things. Because think about it, what is the alternative?

Besides that, even when the supply of engineers exceeds the demand, it STILL might make sense to go into engineering because a huge bulk of that supply consists of foreigners. I'm about to transfer to a university in the area and there's a facebook page for the incoming class for each major. In the computer engineering department, literally 90% of the class is indian or asian.

Employers are going to value American employees over Indian ones simply because of the cultural barrier, and no one wants to see their office fill up with a bunch of foreigners. I have this one white friend who applied to be an adjunct professor at a community college. The head of the department gave him the job pretty quick and straight up said a big reason why he was hired was because he was one of the only american applicants for the job.

they can have it, cause once technology becomes advanced enough to REPAIR other technology, there will be no need for human workers anymore. That day is definitely 'when,' not 'if.'

Plus, there is a shortage of some jobs because the conditions are too hazardous. Some people value their humanity more than the size of a paycheck, you know. Many of these doctors, IT workers, and engineers often go to psychiatrists due to extreme mental problems.

 

[bigDeeOT]

they can have it, cause once technology becomes advanced enough to REPAIR other technology, there will be no need for human workers anymore. That day is definitely 'when,' not 'if.'

Plus, there is a shortage of some jobs because the conditions are too hazardous. Some people value their humanity more than the size of a paycheck, you know. Many of these doctors, IT workers, and engineers often go to psychiatrists due to extreme mental problems.

You're looking at it from the most pessimistic point of view. I don't know why.

Again, what is the alternative? Using your logic, people should not go into any hot job market period. We should just sit around and whine about how every job will be taken up by robots.

 

[Wild self]

You're looking at it from the most pessimistic point of view. I don't know why.

Again, what is the alternative? Using your logic, people should not go into any hot job market period. We should just sit around and whine about how every job will be taken up by robots.

No, All I'm saying that their should be a more effective way to start being more entrepreneurial and not waste hundreds of thousands of dollars to gain a degree to get the remaining "hot jobs" jobs left where only a few people can mentally perform without mental drawbacks.

 

[bigDeeOT]

No, All I'm saying that their should be a more effective way to start being more entrepreneurial and not waste hundreds of thousands of dollars to gain a degree to get the remaining "hot jobs" jobs left where only a few people can mentally perform without mental drawbacks.

You're a lot less likely to be a successful entrepreneur than you are to be a successful engineer or nurse or doctor or accountant. Even being an entrepreneur has its mental barriers. You have to have very thick skin to persevere even when your business is breaking even or losing money for the first year or two. You also have to have a good business mindset, and leadership skills. You could look at any field and say "only a few people can mentally perform without mental drawbacks." Not everyone can be a CEO.

 

[Wild self]

You're a lot less likely to be a successful entrepreneur than you are to be a successful engineer or nurse or doctor or accountant. Even being an entrepreneur has its mental barriers. You have to have very thick skin to persevere even when your business is breaking even or losing money for the first year or two. You also have to have a good business mindset, and leadership skills. You could look at any field and say "only a few people can mentally perform without mental drawbacks." Not everyone can be a CEO.

When America was a producer nation back in the 70s,any person could work in the factory and built items for a great living wage. Now to sustain that kind of wage, you have to go through schooling that is unstable borrowing costs, and work in a field that only a few can excel at mathematically. Not everyone is on that book learning. People are hands-on and learn through experiences themselves. Trust me,even in the end, someone still owns your time and you building another person's dream.

The whole system needs a makeover.

 

[bigDeeOT]

When America was a producer nation back in the 70s,any person could work in the factory and built items for a great living wage. Now to sustain that kind of wage, you have to go through schooling that is unstable borrowing costs, and work in a field that only a few can excel at mathematically. Not everyone is on that book learning. People are hands-on and learn through experiences themselves. Trust me,even in the end, someone still owns your time and you building another person's dream.

The whole system needs a makeover.

If only a few can excel mathematically its because you grew up despising mathematics so your brain didn't develop anything in that area. Just like if you don't grow up to learn two languages as a young kid, it's a lot harder to do when you're older.

Personally I believe MANY people can excel in it mathematically. It will just take a lot of developmental math classes to get you up to speed. Stop trying to make excuses for everything. There will be no "makeover" of the system. We are living in the world we're in now and nothing about it is going to change in the near future. You gotta do what you can to succeed. If you don't want to be an engineer because it hurts your brain to multiply 70 *21 in your head then I guess you have to accept your fate as a ditch digger, or worse, an unemployed person.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Black people make up excuses for EVERYTHING I swear and I'm tired of it. Stop making up excuses, trying to play the victim card. Black people LOOOOOVE to point how how they're victims of the system. Get your ass out there and work. Don't give me this "math is hard" bs. Go out and do something besides complaining about the system.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

INTERNS SHOULD DONATE BLOOD TO THE COMPANY TOO, BROTHER!

 

[Hulk Hogan]

If only a few can excel mathematically its because you grew up despising mathematics so your brain didn't develop anything in that area.

HE MEANT TO SAY "STATISTICALLY" JACK!

 

[bigDeeOT]

HE MEANT TO SAY "STATISTICALLY" JACK!

How does that change anything?

 

[Wild self]

If only a few can excel mathematically its because you grew up despising mathematics so your brain didn't develop anything in that area. Just like if you don't grow up to learn two languages as a young kid, it's a lot harder to do when you're older.

Personally I believe MANY people can excel in it mathematically. It will just take a lot of developmental math classes to get you up to speed. Stop trying to make excuses for everything. There will be no "makeover" of the system. We are living in the world we're in now and nothing about it is going to change in the near future. You gotta do what you can to succeed. If you don't want to be an engineer because it hurts your brain to multiply 70 *21 in your head then I guess you have to accept your fate as a ditch digger, or worse, an unemployed person.

I know how to multiply very well and done well at math (until pre-cal). All I'm saying that very few people are good at high level math, regardless of race. There needs to be more entrepreneurial people in general and there needs to be more innovations instead of being high-paid employees with mental problems.

@ the world not going to change in the near future. When the day comes and your boss laid you off because a machine replaced your efforts, don't be the one crying. The world is evolving at a rapid rate, and if you have the employee mindset, you gonna be suffering.

 

[Wild self]

Black people make up excuses for EVERYTHING I swear and I'm tired of it. Stop making up excuses, trying to play the victim card. Black people LOOOOOVE to point how how they're victims of the system. Get your ass out there and work. Don't give me this "math is hard" bs. Go out and do something besides complaining about the system.

You right

We gotta free ourselves from being employees, period.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

How does that change anything?

IT MEANS THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR ATTACK ON BLACK PEOPLES SUPPOSED UNWILLINGNESS TO LEARN MATH IS BASED ON YOUR FAILURE TO RECOGNIZE AN UNDERSTANDABLE MISTAKE IN LANGUAGE, TOUGH GUY!

 

[bigDeeOT]

I agree we need to be more entrepreneurial I just think that for the present moment, we need to go for the path of proven success. You can be an entrepreneur any time. Anyway peace I'm out

 

[Hulk Hogan]

All I'm saying that very few people are good at high level math, regardless of race.

IT APPEARS I MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG TO CHASTISE @bigDeeOT BROTHER!

*throws self over top rope*