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[Wild self]

The thing is there is only a handful of majors worth getting into any type of serious debt over

There shouldn't be as much debt in the first place, breh. College should be like it was 40 years ago in terms of affordability.

 

[Serious]

There shouldn't be as much debt in the first place, breh. College should be like it was 40 years ago in terms of affordability.

exactly all this blame the victim crap is

The university of California system( the best system in the world) used to be entirely subsidized by the state until @DEAD7 's boy Reagan stepped in ( ) and decided to cut taxes ( )

 

[Wild self]

exactly all this blame the victim crap is

The university of California system( the best system in the world) used to be entirely subsidized by the state until @DEAD7 's boy Reagan stepped ( )

College debt is another way to control people financially so that they are distracted from innovating in the job market. It produces employees and have people turning on each other for scraps what the employers throw at you.

 

[Serious]

College debt is another way to control people financially so that they are distracted from innovating in the job market. It produces employees and have people turning on each other for scraps what the employers throw at you.

Can't focus on what you want, if you have (50k in debt + interest) to pay off

 

[Wild self]

Can't focus on what you want, if you have (50k in debt + interest) to pay off

Exactly. People will never question the shady motives of college administrations making record profits at the expense of fukking up the future of American workers. Its like they are above God and have no right to be questioned

 

[DEAD7]

Seems like govt. just continues to f*ck the people over...

Spoiler

...meanwhile private colleges are

 

[#1 pick]

Ain't shyt promised. We go to college and feel we're entitled to a min. $30k/year job, when that's not even realistic. It's not 1980 when our parents came out of college and opportunities were abundant. My generation has to swallow their pride, take that shytty job, stay with your folks for a minute, and NETWORK your way to the next gig. I put more power in networking than a resume.

I say this, because that's the path I've taken the past 2 years.

I work in movie production and it seems like people are dying to get in this industry. Mufukas are getting paid! And majority of the people didn't "study" this in school, just fell into and are now making 6 figures. On the first show I worked on last year, there were a few under the table interns, because they wanted to be in the industry so bad. It takes a special person, 12-16 hr days, virtually NO OFF DAYS, etc etc.

I'm getting out in July.

When my parents came out, they had numerous degrees and they couldn't find shyt due to no one wanting to hire Blacks outside of the gov't unless you went to the right school for Blacks (Howard, Spelman, Morehouse). shyt, I knew many Black Duke grads from the 70's and early 80's working at Macy's. Duke grads nikkas. Ya'll say this back in my parents day as if you are white. shyt was never that easy for us. Things really haven't changed much. Maybe in the 90's and early 2000's but in the 70's, 80's and now, the shyt seems to be the same except more competition with the hispanics which wasn't there in the 80's.

 

[#1 pick]

Online job boards are black holes. Barely 10 percent of resumes reach Human Resources.
It's unfair but people get jobs thru networking, by knowing people connected to companies (family, friends, acquaintances). Qualifications are almost secondary.
This system hurts minorities the most since it overwhelmingly favors white folks who dominate Corporate America... Unless you have connected white friends willing to help out (see below)

The networking thing was an eye-opener for me. That shyt is so prevalent in my company, it's disgusting (father, son, cousin, etc). Some white dude just got hired mainly because he was once a roommate of a colleague. He didn't even go to college but he's gonna learn on the job (lab tech)
That's a killer for minorities, since most white folks don't have friends of another race.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...r-less-likely-to-have-friends-of-another-race

Plus, it homogenizes the office since friends tend to have the same qualities and flaws. That's not always beneficial for the company.
I got lucky since I found my job the hard way (I had no connections but my Aerospace Engineering degree was a nice asset).



There's a reason why a white felon has a better chance at getting hired than a black person with no criminal record

Most have friends but they don't have THAT friend. That person they would be willing to help above all else to see them Whites usually don't have Black friends like that but ask them if they have a Black friend in general, most will say yes. It could be the local manager at the bank or the friend he golfs with. It's funny how cacs will answer a question differently depending on the topic of conversation.

 

[#1 pick]

Online job boards are black holes. Barely 10 percent of resumes reach Human Resources.
It's unfair but people get jobs thru networking, by knowing people connected to companies (family, friends, acquaintances). Qualifications are almost secondary.
This system hurts minorities the most since it overwhelmingly favors white folks who dominate Corporate America... Unless you have connected white friends willing to help out (see below)

The networking thing was an eye-opener for me. That shyt is so prevalent in my company, it's disgusting (father, son, cousin, etc). Some white dude just got hired mainly because he was once a roommate of a colleague. He didn't even go to college but he's gonna learn on the job (lab tech)
That's a killer for minorities, since most white folks don't have friends of another race.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...r-less-likely-to-have-friends-of-another-race

Plus, it homogenizes the office since friends tend to have the same qualities and flaws. That's not always beneficial for the company.
I got lucky since I found my job the hard way (I had no connections but my Aerospace Engineering degree was a nice asset).



There's a reason why a white felon has a better chance at getting hired than a black person with no criminal record

You can't fool people who don't want to hire you. I am proud of my name. You can tell I am Black as soon as you see it and if you don't want me, don't interview me. Those situations are terrible to work at anyway. I been there, done that. Comfort on the job with a great work ethic leads to great improvement when it comes to employees. Discomfort leads to your focus being elsewhere and that's not good for an employee.

 

[#1 pick]

You don't have to be in a valuable social group. And early on you shouldn't have to utilize outsider networking. We undervalue and under appreciate the people we already know. I don't consider my family or friends a "valuable social group [networking wise]," but more often than not they know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody, and bam I'm offered an oppurtinity or a chance just have lunch with somebody.

That's the beauty of a network and simply being cordial with people. I try to be genuine in my actions and not just be nice to people for the benefits. That kinda of stuff shines thru and makes an impression on people. Far too many times I've seen fellow black people nuke a potential bridge just to get their point across or be heard. Being cordial and having a good attitude is a small step in starting a career in whatever field.

A fewlines from Phonte, has put my short journey into perspective:

"Everybody prays for the day they see the light/But the light at the end of the tunnel is a train/Five dollar gas and poverty rates, are rising much higher than your hourly rate/So if you thinkin’ ‘bout quiting, you should probably wait/Cause everybody gotta do a fukkin’ job that they hate"

shyt will be like that, you'll be in uncomfortable positions and making less than you're worth, etc.

If you're a graduate of a college or a part of a frat/soroity, there's your opportunity to link up with people who have common interests. If you go to church, you coach a little league team, there you go it's folks out there that may be able to help you find something. I didn't realize my potential network until somebody told me. Once that lightbulb went off I wrote up a plan, and I'm trying my best to get in that field and start my career

Breh, I think his point was some ppl don't have that network. I had that network in my homestate. It was the reason as a young pup out of college, I was rolling with the heavy hitters. Still, it takes more to truly succeed but it takes an opportunity. That is something ppl lack and don't know or have time to do. It's not as easy as you are saying it is. I know my mother got me 90% of the positions I had in my homestate which made it possible to get good jobs when I moved.

I disagree with the job boards are dead. Maybe for someone with no exp but if you got 3-5 years, the job boards are useful.

I have a poli sci degree and currently doing my master's in public policy (more applied stuff, tangible) and I've been working full time for 2 years... I got lucky with the job I have because I interned in the company before and they just happened to have openings. Being in DC also helps because of the amount of opportunity.

Benefits are good, pay could always be better but I can't complain at all seeing friends struggling. Plus, I've noticed the same thing... it seems every week people are e-mailing me or texting me about jobs like I'm ballin like that or something... I don't got that kinda connects here

You should stop right there. Being in the DMV isn't a lock for anything but it makes it a lot easier without a question.

 

[Suicide King]

When my parents came out, they had numerous degrees and they couldn't find shyt due to no one wanting to hire Blacks outside of the gov't unless you went to the right school for Blacks (Howard, Spelman, Morehouse). shyt, I knew many Black Duke grads from the 70's and early 80's working at Macy's. Duke grads nikkas. Ya'll say this back in my parents day as if you are white. shyt was never that easy for us. Things really haven't changed much. Maybe in the 90's and early 2000's but in the 70's, 80's and now, the shyt seems to be the same except more competition with the hispanics which wasn't there in the 80's.

Now things are not easy all around.

A lot of these heartbroken college grads hate to admit that they feel "entitled" and hate that those days are over. While black folks faced their fear of disappointment all long time ago.

 

[#1 pick]

Now things are not easy all around.

A lot of these heartbroken college grads hate to admit that they feel "entitled" and hate that those days are over. While black folks faced their fear of disappointment all long time ago.

So true, even then it's still easier for Whites but it is much harder than it used to be for them as well.

 

[superunknown23]

Most have friends but they don't have THAT friend. That person they would be willing to help above all else to see them Whites usually don't have Black friends like that but ask them if they have a Black friend in general, most will say yes. It could be the local manager at the bank or the friend he golfs with. It's funny how cacs will answer a question differently depending on the topic of conversation.

A colleague just got arrested last week for the third time for violating his parole. He beat up his new girlfriend (after doing the same thing to the previous one and getting a restraining order).
It wouldn't surprise me if the company still keeps him on board (if he avoids jail time).
After all, they gave him two second chances (drugs & assault offenses) and he's the nephew of a long-time employee