First Take Debate: Lebron or Steph; Who has been the MVP over the last 10 seasons

[Osmosis]

Its 100% Steph tbh.

No team hopping and his game altered the NBA landscape. Lebron had to get down on his knees, beg Wade for help and fly out to Miami to start the superteam era to become relevant as a champion (i.e 1st great player in NBA history in his PRIME going to team up with other great players in their prime).

What part of that is MVP? Individually he might have been a better player than Steph but Steph was more valuable.

Only blinkered, biased bronsexuals will think this is a preposterous question to begin with. No reasonining with them.

Curry had to get down on his knees and beg KD to help him beat Lebron after losing in the finals. First time in history two MVPs in their prime teamed up

 

[The God Poster]

With ZERO rings, ZERO finals appearances, and no defensive impact.

Thanks for playing

When the next gen start looking at y’all Bron stans as old heads this gone be the new move

 

[Ohene]

Since 2013? Steph

 

[BlueHeffner]

So this only matters in 10 year gaps huh Bron stans

So Bron?

The discussion is about the last 10 seasons and what they’ve accomplished.

The OP changed it from regular MVPs to Finals MVPs to make it look better for lebron

Who had more regular season MVPs and Rings in the last 10?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

With ZERO rings, ZERO finals appearances, and no defensive impact.

Thanks for playing

Luka has better stats and an equal amount of rings through the same amount of seasons played. You better pray every year that he doesnt start winning rings

You mean the 2015 series without Love and Kyrie playing a total of 40 minutes in the series? Yeah, Curry isn't winning shyt with Mozgov, Delly, JR Smith, and Shumpert. They lose those other series too, a Curry/Kyrie backcourt with Love as the last line of defense isn't winning shyt.

Definitely doesn't make the finals with the 2007 Cavs, 2018 Cavs, 2012-2014 Heat. Probably doesn't with the 2020 Lakers. I'll give him the 2011 Heat and maybe he sneaks in with one other team.

Evaluate the competition.

First of all it said last 10 years so 2007 cavs are irrelevant

Second of all, those teams I listed were not good and kyrie probably gets moved in this hypothetical anyway. Steph also works blatt system better than bron

Third of all, he fits better with wade and Bosh than lebron does

 

[The God Poster]

The discussion is about the last 10 seasons and what they’ve accomplished.

The OP changed it from regular MVPs to Finals MVPs to make it look better for lebron

Who had more regular season MVPs and Rings in the last 10?

Shameful behavior @Jplaya2023

 

[Peruvian Connect]

How is this a debate? Both are 4x Champs and one dog walked the other ffor 3 of their 4 titles. Steph >> LeBronze

 

[Gotright]

How is this a debate? Both are 4x Champs and one dog walked the other ffor 3 of their 4 titles. Steph >> LeBronze

Watch the video in the op even the people that gets paid to talk sports don’t care to much for those KD rings. You can’t even be Realistic. Talking about he dogged walked him but ever finals it was clear that lebron was the better player between the 2. Curry top 10 tho

 

[Osmosis]

Luka has better stats and an equal amount of rings through the same amount of seasons played. You better pray every year that he doesnt start winning rings


Evaluate the competition.

First of all it said last 10 years so 2007 cavs are irrelevant

Second of all, those teams I listed were not good and kyrie probably gets moved in this hypothetical anyway. Steph also works blatt system better than bron

Third of all, he fits better with wade and Bosh than lebron does

So now you care about fit and roster construction? your argument was that Bron wouldn't make the finals with the 2015-2017 Warriors. Well, Curry wouldn't make the finals with most of the teams Bron made the finals with. Bron has a better chance of making the finals with those Warriors teams than Curry has making it with any team Bron has made the finals with.

The competition? The Warriors made the WCF in 2016 without Curry they won two consecutive playoff series with minimal contributions from Steph.

 

[steph_harden]

How is this even a debate

Every single metric says Bron has been the better player. And he's outplayed Steph heavily in their head to heads....even down to the damn play-in game.

Steph only matches Bron popularity wise....Cultural wise.

Actual impact on the court? Doing more with way less? We know who that is already.

You doing a disservice to the lesser player by trying to prop him against a player on a completely different level than him. That shyt isnt fair to Steph man....

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

I vote Bron but it should be Steph

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

So now you care about fit and roster construction? your argument was that Bron wouldn't make the finals with the 2015-2017 Warriors. Well, Curry wouldn't make the finals with most of the teams Bron made the finals with. Bron has a better chance of making the finals with those Warriors teams than Curry has making it with any team Bron has made the finals with.

The competition? The Warriors made the WCF in 2016 without Curry they won two consecutive playoff series with minimal contributions from Steph.

All those fadeaway bricks from bron are step in makes from curry

 

[In The Zone '98]

Curry was pretty GODLY those two finals with KD.

shyt was so unfair, bro. Lmao.

It's a tie

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Watch the video in the op even the people that gets paid to talk sports don’t care to much for those KD rings. You can’t even be Realistic. Talking about he dogged walked him but ever finals it was clear that lebron was the better player between the 2. Curry top 10 tho

The same people who chided KD for going to GS? The same people who are pretending that LeBron hasn't won a single ring without playing along side of true former #1 option? The same ones who pretend LeBron's championship teams weren't out start powering every team he beat and all but one that he lost to?

Prime for Prime LeBron won rings with Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving & Anthony Davis. Steph won with KD twice and twice without him. Steph has done more with less.

 

[lib123]

You came up with a nonsense hypothetical. Do you not see how it has no relevance in this discussion?

How is that a nonsense hypothetical? People point to Curry’s championships during that span. Are you saying Bron wouldn’t have more championships if he was on those Warriors squads?