Every time an ignorant person says bicycling and public transit would never work in America like it does in Europe…

[bnew]

And you and your supporters barely talk about it.
You and your people continue to talk about bicycling everywhere.



Those same shytty e-bikes that are causing all the fires in NYC lately?

e-bikes don't cause fires, cheap poorly made lithium batteries cause fires.

the batteries aren't regulated.

 

[concise]

Isn't commuting 20 miles per day via car in NYC a nightmare?








12 miles is about 45 minutes on a bike unless there are a ton of lights. Less if you like to ride fast. Probably only 20 or so minutes more than it's taking you by car, it reduces stress, you get your cardio and you don't need gas, parking, or putting wear on your vehicle.

My wife biked 5 miles each way to work for 7 years and loved it. And she's a 5'4" woman.

It's not nearly as bad as it is by bicycle.


12 miles is 45 minutes?
I used to do a little less than 3 and it took about 20 minutes.

Matter of fact, I just looked at google maps for a bunch of random directions anywhere in NYC about 12 miles apart gives at least 1hr as an estimated time, every time

 

[concise]

e-bikes don't cause fires, cheap poorly made lithium batteries cause fires.

the batteries aren't regulated.

So what are we waiting for,
it's been a couple of years now.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It's not nearly as bad as it is by bicycle.


12 miles is 45 minutes?
I used to do a little less than 3 and it took about 20 minutes.

Matter of fact, I just looked at google maps for a bunch of random directions anywhere in NYC about 12 miles apart gives at least 1hr as an estimated time, every time

I've never been to New York.

 

[8WON6]

some of yall never been to cities with hills.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This is good time to remember that commuting in a car is one of the worst things you can do to yourself on a daily basis, while active commuting (walking or riding your bike) actually improves personal well-being.

Commuting exacts considerable stress on the human mind and body and on family relationships. All the stressors, day in and day out, take their toll. Each added travel minute correlates with an increase in health problems. Several studies have shown that long-distance commuters suffer from psychosomatic disorders at a much higher rate than people with short trips to work. Physical symptoms range from headaches and backaches to digestive problems and high blood pressure. Mental ills include sleep disturbances, fatigue and concentration problems. Commuters who drive have it especially hard—bad weather, traffic jams and accidents all cause stress....

“The psychosomatic condition of these people [45+ minute commuters] was terrible,” says Steffen Haefner, who led the study. The proportion who complained of symptoms such as pain, dizziness, exhaustion and severe sleep deprivation was twice as high as in a control group of noncommuters. Of the long-distance travelers, Haefner says, “31 percent of the men and 37 percent of the women were, from a medical point of view, clearly in need of treatment.” Other studies show that workers who use mass transit suffer from higher infection rates and that car drivers have a greater incidence of joint disease.

Frey and Stutzer calculated total personal satisfaction values for each individual by tabbing up the “profits” against the “debits” of the disadvantages. They concluded that for every minute longer a worker spends getting to work he will be less satisfied with his life. In a 2004 report the two researchers calculated that Germans who commuted two hours a day were so much more dissatisfied than those with the average commute of 40 minutes that it would take a 40 percent raise in pay to make up for the disgruntledness.

Commuting Takes Its Toll

Workers are traveling ever longer to attain the job or home life they want, but the daily stress may outweigh the gains

www.scientificamerican.com

One 2004 study found that in a sample of nearly a thousand employed women, commuting was the least satisfying activity of all types of daily activities, falling below housework and working, and generated feelings of impatience and fatigue. The ride to work is also associated with increased blood pressure, musculoskeletal problems, lower frustration tolerance, and higher levels of anxiety and hostility. It can cause bad moods when arriving at work and coming home, increased lateness and missed work, and impaired cognitive performance.

Commuting times have steadily increased in the U.S., and the rising problem of congestion has only exacerbated the issue of wasting time, money, and fuel. In 2011, congestion caused Americans to travel an extra 5.5 billion hours and purchase an extra 2.9 billion gallons of fuel, leading to a $121 billion price tag to congestion (not to mention 56 billion pounds of carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere due to urban congestion). The annual delay for the average commuter has been steadily rising since the 1980s, more than doubling to 38 hours of delays in 2011 for the average commuter and wasting an extra week’s worth of fuel for the average U.S. driver.

A study in 2014 found that psychological well-being, including the ability to concentrate and happiness, was higher for people commuting by active travel, like walking or public transport, compared to driving. Furthermore, switching from car driving to active travel resulted in improved well-being. Longer travel time for walkers actually improved well-being, whereas the opposite was true for drivers. In contrast, driving requires constant concentration and can result in increased boredom, social isolation, and stress.

There are also potential physical health benefits to active commuting, depending on your mode of transportation. Commuting by walking or cycling has been shown to reduce cardiovascular risk by 11 percent — a protective effect that more significantly impacted women than men.

Commuting: "The Stress That Doesn't Pay"

Commuting harms our psychological health and social lives.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[bnew]

it’s giving up freedom when you have to rely on the government for your transportation.

how free do you feel when you're stuck in traffic?

how free do you feel when you can be stopped by police, fined, have your property searched or be searched yourself?

 

[bnew]

Ok please explain to me how I’ll carry 2 snowboards and pair of skis to with all my other equipment to Tahoe. That’s would require 3 separate huge bags to carry that shyt. I have a roof rack with a lock that holds all of it. What if I wanna stop and get some food and a beer after a great day of boarding? I gotta get off with those bags and board another train or bus to get to that destination. That’s like $5k in gear. I’d be a walking lick I grew up taking public transportation, and I hated it. I went to a different hs than my friends and had to take a train and two different busses to go see em. 15min car ride or 1 1/2 hours on two busses and a train? Some of us love the convenience, luxuries, and safety our cars give us. Publics transportation just doesn’t work for me and a lot of people around who are pretty active.

your use case is why zipcars are still in business, people who need to carry a lot of stuff from time to time far away from public transit. but yeah for a lot of peoples activities and environment cars makes more sense to use.

archive.ph

theres more than one way to skin a cat.


your last sentence is oddly phrased, as if people who use public transportation aren't active.

 

[bnew]

A LOT of those pedestrian plazas in the city are unnecessary.

what city is that and why do you think they'd be better suited for car traffic and parking?

 

[bnew]

That's not what I said. I said they're adding roadblocks, in addition to other measures.

Video of Fire Truck Stuck on 34th Avenue in Jackson Heights Sparks More Debate About Open Streets Initiative - Jackson Heights Post

Sept. 22, 2022 By Michael Dorgan A video posted online showing an FDNY fire truck failing to maneuver a turn on 34th Avenue in Jackson Heights has

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lots of people know all to well how city planning isn't perfect, people sitting in offices designing bike lanes and never riding the path themselves to see if it's safe or not. we have to demand better planning that accounts for damn near every single use case. these problems have been solved elsewhere but folks wanna reinvent the wheel.

 

[bnew]

It's not nearly as bad as it is by bicycle.


12 miles is 45 minutes?
I used to do a little less than 3 and it took about 20 minutes.

Matter of fact, I just looked at google maps for a bunch of random directions anywhere in NYC about 12 miles apart gives at least 1hr as an estimated time, every time

this is probably because of non-protected bike lanes, i've ridden in bike corridors and protected bike lanes and have have travelled farther in less time. needing to move around cars in the bike lane or slow down for vehicles nearing a crosswalk you're about to cross adds up to prolonging a persons commute.

 

[bnew]

some of yall never been to cities with hills.

pedal-assist is a thing now.

 

[Taco]

your use case is why zipcars are still in business, people who need to carry a lot of stuff from time to time far away from public transit. but yeah for a lot of peoples activities and environment cars makes more sense to use.

archive.ph

theres more than one way to skin a cat.


your last sentence is oddly phrased, as if people who use public transportation aren't active.

Hit dogs holler. Take your bus and bike and stfu already. You’re wasting your time trying to covert me. Keep this in mind I threw like $10k into my SUV ( Steel bumpers, A lift, various racks for water tanks, refuel tanks, oversized tires, extra battery) so I can disappear off the grid weeks at a time. I love cars btw. So trying to convert me is pointless. And that picture of the bike is wild, and did nothing to sway my opinion. It made me grateful that I have my SUV, and assured me I made the right choice

 

[concise]

how free do you feel when you're stuck in traffic?

how free do you feel when you can be stopped by police, fined, have your property searched or be searched yourself?

And NYPD doesn't do all this to people just standing on the street?

 

[O.Red]

It's not that it can't be done but comparing these smaller countries to America is a mistake

Anerican cities are big as fukk