While some men may actually be confused, a lot of this behavior is plain old entitlement and conditioning to look at woman as less-than. Either way, for the sake of keeping dumb nikkas out of jail , spelling things out is necessary.
And I think you maybe misread me. The scenario isn't absurd and it happens regularly enough for multiple men in here to have experienced it, some multiple times. What's absurd is that in order to keep men from trying to chime in and debating against a woman's right to stop a sexual encounter at any point in time, that you have to take it all the way up to mid-stroke just to drive the point home that no is no even if during the act...and you still got nikkas debating this. That's proof that they're either ignorant or feel entitled enough to actually find ANY fault with what she said here in the video.
Nothing about OP or the following discussion is about the nuances of coercion, those things are being brought up as aside to try and create a counter argument to some sort of "movement" rather than the issue at hand. And even then most nikkas I kicked it with growing up WOULDN'T kick it with any females without any liquor or drugs present specifically because they had an agenda to get laid and knew that it was easier to talk women into sex if they were intoxicated. I would surmise that rationale sounds familiar to most people who frequent this board, which makes it easier to see how lines can start getting blurred and over-stepped. Yet in still...that ain't even the topic at hand.
I think that's about as unfair as assuming whatever it is about men that has people in here on some he-man woman haters club membership, but in the context of the scenario in the OP, regression due to trauma CAN be one of the reasons a woman might stop a sexual encounter mid-stroke. It also might be a reason why some may go through with sexual acts that they don't enjoy because they don't really have the mental resources in those moments to connect the dots to being abused to what they're feeling. This is where the benefit of actually getting to know and communicating with who you're laying down with before hand comes in. Many people just throw weed and liquor at the situation until the senses are dull enough and inhibitions are low enough for the desired outcome, tell me I'm lying..
And what does his atheism have to do with his philosophy on women? Clergymen are notorious for rape, molestation and using their position in the communities to have their pick of sexual targets. And I know this first hand as I have two scumbag ministers in my family.
The same way womens previous trauma or current displeasure can make them say no mid stroke. A mans current or past enjoyment of p*ssy could cause him to go a few extra strokes after the woman says no. And for you to fall in line with this woman in calling that man a rapist is a violation of men who would never commit any real act of rape
. You need to understand the ilk of this nutty woman to understand why you need to advocate for men here, this is a woman who truly believes men should be labeled rapist if they were to go a few extra strokes,or should be bought up on charges,I don't think you would agree with that do you
? If not you should see why its important to talk about the nuances in this situation as well! But these type of women never want to discuss the nuances that bring accountability their way.
You got real psychological and biological in order to advocate for women which is fair. But I'm sure you under stand adrenaline,I don't think you would blame someone for not stopping mid swing during a fights. Women need to take responsibility there,same way they couldn't fix their mouths to say no beforehand,or no probably 5 strokes ago when she really wanted you to stop,a man may go a couple more strokes and shouldn't be called a rapist as that is insulting and violates you as a man.
SHe is being disingenious because I doubt any man would actually bring this up,knowing how it sounds. "A man should be able to keep going multiple strokes even after a woman says no
" There are no men on that platform. No man is thinking about that in premeditated fashion. Why?Because it sounds bad when you say it outside of the act. But during the act they know stopping on a dime may not happen. So men aren't out here advocating on a "3 more strokes" platform. Men are being responsible knowing that you don't want to advocate that,because you may be empowering men who might want to push it to a "20 more strokes" platform or a "Dont ever stop" platform. Men don't want to empower,or be in bed with sick men who might feel empowered,or take your platform out of context to advocate something more extreme.
This woman is empowering sick and hateful women who might want to put a rape charge on a innocent black man,because he went 3 more strokes. This is who you are defending and advocating for. Out of all the men who said they had this happen,I'm almost 100% sure none of them stopped on the dime,or in mid stroke which is fine,they aren't rapist for that. And most women are actually sane,and wouldn't consider it rape if you went a few more strokes. So there really is no need for this discussion,other than the fact she is trying to convince women that what has been working all this time,and what has been the right thing,is now wrong. ANd that women ACTUALLY need to start putting cases on men who go 3 more strokes.
As the counter punchers men have to be,you have to tell men to be prepared for impressionable women taking on this new mindset she is advocating,and treat them with kid gloves instead of as grown ups.
What does him being a athiest have to do with anything? Nothing other than the fact I'm not the least bit suprised