murksiderock
Superstar
I put in the post before the one you quotes
I'm not basing my pick off what a whole team did
tim is more disciplined and has a better history vs shaq
but prime shaq is better in every category besides shooting... I think people are getting wrapped up in how THEY want to view this convo
it becomes an easy W for Tim because of the team history. I'm talking about straight up playing, I dont think Tim is making it through a whole 1v1 game against shaq
my example would be ... Klay Thompson is one of the greatest shooters of all time ... Warriors were serving Lakers near the end (probably last 5) years of Kobe's career
and Kobe has something like the most FG misses or top 5. I'm still picking Kobe over Klay 1v1 ... record and shooting % dont matter in a head on situation. All that stuff people are saying
about Tim is absolutely true, and the spurs are one of the best teams of all time. But head up, what is Tim gonna do in that setting? Shaq is better at 90% of everything. 1v1 I dont think Tim Duncan even comes out of that shyt healthy afterwards. Shaq struggled in a team setting Vs Yao Ming too, mainly because of the post jumper... which would be similar to Duncan. But I'm saying 1v1 .... realistically Yao would get fukking ragdolled at 7'6 against Shaq. I dont think there is any player in NBA history in a real basketball setting thats gonna stop Shaq. People were hacking him and he was holding back to not hurt anyone for the most part. If you let Shaq do what he wanted outside of team basketball ... I dont think Tony Parker and Tim Duncan together are stopping that ... For lack of a better sentence to sum up this post. I think Shaq could kill Tim Duncan on accident if he wanted to. If you use this newschool p*ssy wnba shyt, maybe Tim could shoot fall away jumpers... But Shaq 1 on 1 wouldnt have to give 70% effort to punish 95% of the history of the NBA. Kareem too, he's got a look at being called Goat and I respect and love him... Shaq fukking hates Kareem, unless Kareem is shooting all hooks 100% of the time. Shaq would purposely try to hurt and punish Kareem head up. You would have to put like a 20-24 year old Kareem in to survive that shyt. Shaq with NBA david stern rules was still cheap as fukk, I dont think people really watched or remember.
He was one of the only people from that era who was an absolute problem ... like legitimately if they arent calling shyt. Shaq might just ruin the whole game and body everyone. There hasnt been a time where people were like "oh fukk I gotta play Tim Duncan tonight" ... you missed my first post, but I was a Suns fan. I've seen Spurs eat shyt with my own eyes from Clippers, Suns Etc. I'm not even saying Tim aint a top player I am 100% not mad at people riding and loving the Spurs. In a real game yeah maybe and historically yeah... but 1v1 for basketball... nah I dont think Tim is bodying shaq, even if he used Tiago Splitter as a sub. One drop step on Tim could potentially end his shyt for a month. It's like someone saying "well dudes have belts and great records maybe they could fight Prime Tyson" nah probably not. And Shaq is arguably worse than Prime Tyson because he's 7 foot and 325lbs, he could probably drop 20 with Tim Duncan riding on his back. I laugh and say Hakeem crushed him that one time and blah blah... but head up. Hakeem wouldnt be doing that shake shyt, Shaq would probably dislocate his shoulder just to prove a point.
Basketball not a 1v1 sport so I don't know how you evaluate it that way. The closest you can come to that is H2H matchuos, and even then you have to weigh the full context of what each guy did in relation to what they were working with (supporting cast, coaching)...