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The Mad Titan

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Microsoft is a software company, that's their bread and butter. Everything else they do is to supplement that, which includes hardware, however that's a small part of the overall company... sure they would love to have crazy popular hardware in homes and businesses that what the Xbox was/is an attempt at.

And if you still want to debate and throw stannery around.

This is MS mission statement from 11 years ago. Notice what they say they do 1st and then what they also do after the 1st thing.

Business Description





Now here is Sony's


Notice the 1st thing they mention is electronics...

That's because they are a actually hardware company. Let y'all tell it since they been creating and moving millions of games and software they are a software company

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Is anyone here actually arguing that sony is a software company besides Larry stans? Yall arguing with yourselves :mjlol:


Sony has never actively pursued software over the years outside of playstation. Microsoft has actively pursued all types of hardware in almost every major consumer electronic market.

Yall creating bad faith arguments and trying to prove yourselves wrong
 

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Is anyone here actually arguing that sony is a software company besides Larry stans? Yall arguing with yourselves :mjlol:


Sony has never actively pursued software over the years outside of playstation. Microsoft has actively pursued all types of hardware in almost every major consumer electronic market.

Yall creating bad arguments and trying to prove yourselves wrong
So Sony can create software and still be a hardware company primarily but Microsoft can't create hardware and still be a software company primarily

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So Sony can create software and still be a hardware company primarily but Microsoft can't create hardware and still be a software company primarily

:ohhh:

Sony has never actively pursued software over the years outside of playstation. Microsoft has actively pursued all types of hardware in almost every major consumer electronic market.
 

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^^ @Gizmo_Duck

That ain't true but ok.

And Go ahead and tell me how much software you have to acquire, develop, use and or sell to determine "actively pursuing"

:mjlol:


Not that it matters, anyone with common sense is gonna tell you Microsoft is a software company. :manny:

Talk about bad faith
 

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And consoles, music players, Kinect, mobile phones aren’t hardware?

Make it make sense
 

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And consoles, music players, Kinect, mobile phones aren’t hardware?

Make it make sense
Microsoft is a software company first and foremost. It's always been that way.

If they weren't you'd see a closed ecosystem like you do with apple.

Since Satya took over they've shiftted more into being a services company.

The main reason Microsoft is in the hardware space is to show off generational changes in their software. For example, touch in windows 10. Windows hello and azure joined devices with 10h2 >>win 11.

Even as one of the top cloud providers their datacenters aren't filled with MS hardware.

In fact Microsoft doesn't really create much hardesr3 at all. Outside of the controllers xbox hardware is only assembled by MS.
 

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Satya became ceo in 2014. Before that they had a closed eco system just like Sony/Nintendo.

They were making software to push the Xbox hardware. Be it the Kinect, exclusive games, HDMI pass through, or the little faceplates you could buy for the 360.

I know they are generally a software company, but that does not negate the fact from 2000-2014 they were pushing the Xbox console.

Once again I’m specifically talking about the gaming division.
 

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Almost all those products failed or were ended by Microsoft. Saying Microsoft is a hardware company is like saying Google makes products and services you can depend on to be around forever. The irony is Microsoft actually makes good hardware products from time to time but the company just doesn't know how to make them successful.

Microsoft is a software company that dabbles in making hardware to further their software.
This is not untrue.
However, the issue here is scale.

When you're that big, your 'dabbling' in something is still getting funded and market pushed like at least an upper-midcard contender in the space.

Trying to not hold them to a comparable standard when Microsoft even playing around in the hardware space makes them larger than legitimate companies in that very space is disingenuous.

Google deserves mockery for failing when they go into hardware spaces. People laughed they asses off when the Stadia failed, despite it being a new take on the market and that's expected to have it's problems. But because it was Google and they got 'all the money in the world', we laughed at it guilt-free. Same shyt happened to Amazon. Most nikkas don't even know what a Luna is. Yet the second it's MIcrosoft and game consoles; folk want to hand-wave it away like they shouldn't be treated the same as their contemporaries.
 

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This takes the cake. This is the wildest shyt I've seen you post.

You're saying a company who has been making consoles for 2+ decades has never been a hardware company, and your argument for that is gamepass. Something they just started 6 or so years ago.

God damn.

I honestly don't think there is a smiley available that can describe the delusion of this post.
For you and everyone that dapped this silly post. :scust:


1:30:05 in the video until 1:30:50


 

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This is exactly what M$ is doing. Yet due to it being your team you’re cheering it on.

This is why I don’t want large scale consolidation
. Period

On consolidation

2:02:30 until 2:06:10

It's almost like I was there
:wow:
 
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