Embracer Group to start shutting down studios to save on costs

[winb83]

This takes the cake. This is the wildest shyt I've seen you post.

You're saying a company who has been making consoles for 2+ decades has never been a hardware company, and your argument for that is gamepass. Something they just started 6 or so years ago.

God damn.

I honestly don't think there is a smiley available that can describe the delusion of this post.

What quality long lasting successful hardware has Microsoft made? Windows Phone? Zune? Surface? The Microsoft Band? Also present day Microsoft is about selling software as a service and cloud computing. Up until the days of the Xbox One Microsoft envisioned that as a hardware focused product but clearly Xbox has transitioned to mostly focusing on a service. Ballmer to Nadella really transitioned Microsoft to software as a service but they've never been a great hardware company anyway.

When he says "has never been a hardware company" he doesn't mean literally he means it's never really been their primary focus or what they excel at. Almost nobody looks at Microsoft and thinks hardware just like people don't look at Sony and think software. They think about TVs, cameras, and video games.

 

[gurf]

What quality long lasting successful hardware has Microsoft made? Windows Phone? Zune? Surface? The Microsoft Band? Also present day Microsoft is about selling software as a service and cloud computing. Up until the days of the Xbox One Microsoft envisioned that as a hardware focused product but clearly Xbox has transitioned to mostly focusing on a service. Ballmer to Nadella really transitioned Microsoft to software as a service but they've never been a great hardware company anyway.

When he says "has never been a hardware company" he doesn't mean literally he means it's never really been their primary focus or what they excel at. Almost nobody looks at Microsoft and thinks hardware just like people don't look at Sony and think software. They think about TVs, cameras, and video games.

Just because their products didn’t sell doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to push that product.

M$ game division has been pushing hardware for 15+ years. Yea, they recently changed things up, but before that it was hardware focused. Kinects, HDMI pass throughs, etc. All hardware.

They made the change to focus on software in the gaming space because they kept shooting themselves in the foot.

So yes when someone says M$ has "never" been hardware focused in the gaming space, that's a 100% false statement.

 

[winb83]

Just because their products didn’t sell doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to push that product.

M$ game division has been pushing hardware for 15+ years. Yea, they recently changed things up, but before that it was hardware focused. Kinects, HDMI pass throughs, etc. All hardware.

They made the change to focus on software in the gaming space because they kept shooting themselves in the foot.

So yes when someone says M$ has "never" been hardware focused in the gaming space, that's a 100% false statement.

You're modifying what was said because you're wrong. He was speaking about the entire company. Now you want to limit the scope to just gaming because when you look at the entire company like he was Microsoft has a clear history of failing at making lasting hardware products. It's never been something they were good at. Nadella pretty much transitioned the entire company to a software as a service model including Xbox. Software has always been their bread and butter. It's in the company's name.

The entire company has been transformed since the Ballmer days. It may have the same name but it's functionally an different company and what they're doing with Xbox today aligns with that.

 

[Pressure]

Y’all gotta stop engaging gizzard in these bad faith arguments.

 

[gurf]

You're modifying what was said because you're wrong. He was speaking about the entire company. Now you want to limit the scope to just gaming because when you look at the entire company like he was Microsoft has a clear history of failing at making lasting hardware products. It's never been something they were good at. Nadella pretty much transitioned the entire company to a software as a service model including Xbox. Software has always been their bread and butter. It's in the company's name.

The entire company has been transformed since the Ballmer days. It may have the same name but it's functionally an different company and what they're doing with Xbox today aligns with that.

I am talking about gaming. M$ got initially got into the console/gaming side of things to sell consoles.

I didn’t modify anything. You folks are the ones changing things to include stuff outside of gaming.

 

[winb83]

I am talking about gaming. M$ got initially got into the console/gaming side of things to sell consoles.

That for all practical purposes was a different company with different objectives ran by different people and doesn't align with what they're doing now. If they're selling a console now it's so they can try and get that purchaser to subscribe to their subscription service perpetually paying them for it.

That also doesn't change the fact that Microsoft is typically shyt at making hardware products. Even when they make quality ones like Surface it doesn't usually take off.

 

[The Mad Titan]

I am talking about gaming. M$ got initially got into the console/gaming side of things to sell consoles.

This is incorrect also, they got into gaming to become more of a common place house hold name and not just known as the "big bad computer people" they also wanted a way to bring people into the Microsoft ecosystem and be familiar with it.


This is big reason why the XB consoles have always been media center focus, unfortunately the hard push to digital, media center apps and things like the Kinect with the xbox1 was a huge set back... It's also why you could plug up and use a xb1 in so many different ways during a time when almost only A/V people knew what half the inputs and outputs were.

They were about 7 years ahead of there time, nowadays even the switch can do media. Something before the switch, we would have never thought to see them do...

YouTube on a Nintendo device...pssh yeah right.

 

[The Mad Titan]

That for all practical purposes was a different company with different objectives ran by different people and doesn't align with what they're doing now. If they're selling a console now it's so they can try and get that purchaser to subscribe to their subscription service perpetually paying them for it.

That also doesn't change the fact that Microsoft is typically shyt at making hardware products. Even when they make quality ones like Surface it doesn't usually take off.

Yeah the best hardware MS might have ever made ironically might be the XB S/X...

 

[gurf]

Y’all can try to explain it anyway you want to. M$ was focused on selling consoles for the majority of the time since the game division was created in 2000.

There was no gamepass ecosystem to push people into back then. The games they were making were made to sell consoles. The Kinect, Mediacenter functions, were made to sell consoles

So once again, to say they were never hardware focused is false

 

[Lord Beasley]

Me: "I don't care who buys who as long as it isn't one of those foreign companies with no dedication to gaming and it's one of the big 3."

Sony Stan's: " You so disingenuous, you just want Microsoft to buy up everything. There is no difference in what they are doing and what MS is doing"

Act like microsoft wasn't shooting studios in the back and throwin them off cliffs brehs....

 

[SNG]

As the cost of game development continues to rise consolidation is inevitable. A lot of these developers don't have the capital to make the games they want to make without a backer. A lot of these large publishers are becoming risk averse and only putting out mostly limited large franchises and trimming down the catalogs of IPs they keep active to let some rot on the shelf.

Exactly now that Microsoft owns Activision only time you going to see Spyro and crash bandicoot is if they release a costume in Call of duty. Since they are known to milk the ips that are successful.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

am talking about gaming. M$ got initially got into the console/gaming side of things to sell consoles.

They’ve been making xbox for over 22 years now but in the last 3 since gamepass started getting somewhat popular now its ‘they’ve never been in the business to sell video game hardware’

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

When he says "has never been a hardware company" he doesn't mean literally he means it's never really been their primary focus or what they excel at. Almost nobody looks at

The difference is Sony has always been primarily focused on being a tech/hardware and entertainment company. Playstation is a combination of both, they have never tried to put out software, as in OS’s or Music making programs, apps, business software, etc.

Microsoft HAS and continued to try and move into the hardware space in almost every field since the 80’s. They tried music players, computers, phones, gaming, audio equipment, etc. they just have never been successful at it, theres the big difference and xbox is along the same lines. It’s weird to say they never intended a being a big video game hardware manufacture after over 20 years of failing and shifting their focus just recently

 

[The Mad Titan]

Y’all can try to explain it anyway you want to. M$ was focused on selling consoles for the majority of the time since the game division was created in 2000.

There was no gamepass ecosystem to push people into back then. The games they were making were made to sell consoles. The Kinect, Mediacenter functions, were made to sell consoles

So once again, to say they were never hardware focused is false

Next you gonna tell me Walmart is mechanic shop because they been fixing cares for 20 plus years.

Or maybe pizza hut is a wing spot because they started selling wings a decade ago.

No no, better yet, sony is a software company because they focus on selling exclusive games


Trying to make under 15 percent of what a company does out as their main focus or even secondary focus because they've have been doing it for 20 years is crazy.

If Xbox can ever get to a point where they can remove the console even if it's just temporary or for a generation it's happening.

Sony would NEVER entertain that idea

 

[The Mad Titan]

The difference is Sony has always been primarily focused on being a tech/hardware and entertainment company. Playstation is a combination of both, they have never tried to put out software, as in OS’s or Music making programs, apps, business software, etc.

Microsoft HAS and continued to try and move into the hardware space in almost every field since the 80’s. They tried music players, computers, phones, gaming, audio equipment, etc. they just have never been successful at it, theres the big difference and xbox is along the same lines. It’s weird to say they never intended a being a big video game hardware manufacture after over 20 years of failing and shifting their focus just recently

You are literally confirming what I said.


Them producing hardware products, be it a failure or wildly successful doesn't change the fact that they are primarily a software company.

I don't know why y'all fighting something so simple so fiercely.




Sony strength= hardware
Microsoft strength= software