Drake- “whipped and chained you like American slaves.”

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Stop with the goofy ass whataboutism :why:. I can’t believe people on here keep falling for this.

Care to expound on how this whataboutism is goofy?

He has two lines in this song about getting a n*gga killed but the distasteful line about buying a woman cars and jewelry is where more outrage is placed.
 

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Kinda off topic but now imagine if cacs started calling us “American descendants of slaves” :patrice: shyt would cause a lotta issues lol

That's @Buddy whole point and it got these dudes tight :mjlol:
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Care to expound on how this whataboutism is goofy?

He has two lines in this song about getting a n*gga killed but the distasteful line about buying a woman cars and jewelry is where more outrage is placed.
Yes, now take this goofy shyt somewhere else :camby: . Make another fukking thread if you’re that bothered. You sound just as retarded as people who ask about intra-racial crime whenever police brutality is brought up. “B…buu…but what about Chicago?” These are not mutually exclusive things.
 

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Yes, now take this goofy shyt somewhere else :camby: . Make another fukking thread if you’re that bothered. You sound just as retarded as people who ask about intra-racial crime whenever police brutality is brought up. “B…buu…but what about Chicago?”

You didn't explain why it's goofy or retarded to point out the lyrics from the very same song that are actually about getting n*ggas killed. What you're doing instead is name calling, that's not a satisfactory alternative.

My point is that's this anti-Blackness in rap has been so normalized that it's virtually invisible, even to Black listeners.

He literally had to invoke American slavery for Black people to say "maybe this isn't ok" even though reference was about buying a woman cars and jewelry.
 

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You didn't explain why it's goofy or retarded to point out the lyrics from the very same song that are actually about getting n*ggas killed. What you're doing instead is name calling, that's not a satisfactory alternative.

My point is that's this anti-Blackness in rap has been so normalized that it's virtually invisible, even to Black listeners.

He literally had to invoke American slavery for Black people to say "maybe this isn't ok" even though reference was about buying a woman cars and jewelry.
It’s goofy, corny and retarded because this isn’t the place to repeat your rote grievances about hip hop. I can’t speak for others but I’m certainly over your little attention-seeking “it’s just entertainment” shtick. We are specifically talking about evoking images of slavery here, not the thousands of other problems one can point to in rap. Your post is a derail and deserves to be moderated but of course it won’t.
 

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It’s goofy, corny and retarded because this isn’t the place to repeat your rote grievances about hip hop. I can’t speak for others but I’m certainly over your little attention-seeking “it’s just entertainment” shtick. We are specifically talking about evoking images of slavery here, not the thousands of other problems one can point to in rap. Your post is a derail and deserves to be moderated but of course it won’t.

This is clearly more specific than grievances about hip hop as the scope is limited to the one Drake song in the OP.

The "it's just entertainment" shtick didn't make an appearance here until you mentioned it, I quoted lyrics from the song in the OP.

The most accurate thing you've said up to this point is that this is whataboutism but I'm not drawing from something other than the source material to make a comparison.
 

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It’s goofy, corny and retarded because this isn’t the place to repeat your rote grievances about hip hop. I can’t speak for others but I’m certainly over your little attention-seeking “it’s just entertainment” shtick. We are specifically talking about evoking images of slavery here, not the thousands of other problems one can point to in rap. Your post is a derail and deserves to be moderated but of course it won’t.
That cac/c00n derails every thread he enters. Always deflecting and never actually addresses the topic. Why Y'all still engage him idk :dahell:
 

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That cac/c00n derails every thread he enters. Always deflecting and never actually addresses the topic. Why Y'all still engage him idk :dahell:

The topic is about Drake disrespecting ADOS, how am I deflecting if I'm mentioning other ADOS disrespect in the very same song?

Calling Black people "c00ns" is also ADOS disrespect but it's clear that the outrage is conditional as it relates to ADOS disrespect.

The c00n caricature is one of the most insulting of all anti-black caricatures. The name itself, an abbreviation of racc00n, is dehumanizing. As with Sambo, the c00n was portrayed as a lazy, easily frightened, chronically idle, inarticulate, buffoon. The c00n differed from the Sambo in subtle but important ways. Sambo was depicted as a perpetual child, not capable of living as an independent adult. The c00n acted childish, but he was an adult; albeit a good-for-little adult. Sambo was portrayed as a loyal and contented servant. Indeed, Sambo was offered as a defense for slavery and segregation. How bad could these institutions have been, asked the racialists, if black people were contented, even happy, being servants? The c00n, although he often worked as a servant, was not happy with his status. He was, simply, too lazy or too cynical to attempt to change his lowly position. Also, by the 1900s, Sambo was identified with older, docile black people who accepted Jim Crow laws and etiquette; whereas c00ns were increasingly identified with young, urban black people who disrespected white people. Stated differently, the c00n was a Sambo gone bad.

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The topic is about Drake disrespecting ADOS, how am I deflecting if I'm mentioning other ADOS disrespect in the very same song?

Calling Black people "c00ns" is also ADOS disrespect but it's clear that the outrage is conditional as it relates to ADOS disrespect.

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This is clearly more specific than grievances about hip hop as the scope is limited to the one Drake song in the OP.

The "it's just entertainment" shtick didn't make an appearance here until you mentioned it, I quoted lyrics from the song in the OP.

The most accurate thing you've said up to this point is that this is whataboutism but I'm not drawing from something other than the source material to make a comparison.
Nah. This exchange is over. Aaaand neg’d. There are a lot of things that rap could stand to improve - sexism, hyper consumerism and, yes, the glorification of violence. Take a pick. We are now talking about casually evoking slavery as a metaphorical device. I don’t care if it doesn’t rank as highly on your list of things to be upset with. This ain’t about you. fukk outta here. And don’t quote me again.
 
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