Dr. Dre is always called influential but is he really?

[Bugsmoran]

just a few tracks u can hear Dre's influence on




[ame=http://youtu.be/phaJXp_zMYM]The Notorious B.I.G. - "Big Poppa" - YouTube[/ame]



[ame=http://youtu.be/nEwKjt6v_BM]DJ Quik - Let You Havit - YouTube[/ame]



[ame=http://youtu.be/mxRYfX6pTmM]Masta Ace Incorporated - the inc. ride (1995) - YouTube[/ame]




[ame=http://youtu.be/URHKXdgy_Qc]Warren G- This dj - YouTube[/ame]



[ame=http://youtu.be/ukGISyL8WcY]Brotha Lynch - Siccmade - YouTube[/ame]




[ame=http://youtu.be/LnmvNkULvjg]MC Eiht - Geez Make The Hood Go Round - YouTube[/ame]




[ame]http://youtu.be/iP_qiQtb_jQ[/ame]

 

[MouseTeeth]

His sound defined an era? that's not even his sound

I just showed that Jermaine Dupri was sounding like the Chronic before the Chronic even came out

that's just a west coast style of beats that Dre did not come up with

R u seriously citing JD as a dude who came up with an entire? U do realize he's the biggest biter in rap history right? U do understand that right?

 

[Harry B]

tell us how Watch the Throne invented swag breh

After you tell me who taught you how to read.

 

[Mac Casper]

Sorry sir, your perspective isn't all there yet.

 

[nieman]

And to answer this thread, yes Dre is one of the most influential PRODUCERS ( notice I didn't just say beat maker) of all time. He's up there w the Rick Rubins and Phil Spectors. Lemme educate u on what a real producer does, he doesn't just sit and make a beat n leave. He may make the beat or have someone else do it (which happens a lot in dres case) but his real job and expertise is guiding the overall direction and structure of the record. He knows all the little idiosyncrasies that can take a song from B level to A plus level. That's what all the goat producers do, shyt Rick Rubin doesn't even play instruments n his catalogue is untouchable. The man knows music n how the final product should sound. Oh and also, u ever notice how NOBODY is the games beats bang the way Dres do? U think that's an accident?????? fukk no, Btwn him and his engineers they're the illest on the game hands down. He may have underlings/musicians working under him but he's the conductor telling that orchestra what to do. The musicians who rocked on "Off the wall" r just studio musicians without the addition of Quincy jones. N that's exactly what dre is, a fukking legend.

Under this example, you basically have to credit Dame as having more of an impact on the career of Jay-Z; Irv Gotti as the man behind Ja Rule, X, Ashanti...and RZA's influence on the 1st wave of Wu albums is much greater.

 

[Bigbigguy]

Bad troll is bad

He has a point snoop was all over The Chronic

 

[MouseTeeth]

Under this example, you basically have to credit Dame as having more of an impact on the career of Jay-Z; Irv Gotti as the man behind Ja Rule, X, Ashanti...and RZA's influence on the 1st wave of Wu albums is much greater.

I agree w Irv and RZA examples...it's tough to say w jay cuz he worked w so many producers in his career, it wasn't just one guy who molded his sound/persona. I bet dame def had a lot of influence on him when they rolled together, however he is a way bigger artist now then he ever was w dame. I would say on the low (not even) Kanye has a lot to d w that. Jays a smart dude, very observant, he studied and learned from the best (and he still does).

 

[LucaBrasi]

Every Tall Israeli post in this thread

Straight Hip-Hop blasphemy

Chronic & Doggystyle are 2 of the most influential albums of the 90's period.. Dre produced BOTH /thread

 

[JustCKing]

Dre influenced a lot of sounds in Hip Hop. No Limit jacked or incorporated elements of their sound from the Chronic and NWA era Dre. OutKast has stated how much the Chronic influenced the production of Southernplayalistic. That's in addition to what's already been listed in this thread.

 

[Dr.HannibalLecter]

I didn't read anything of this garbage thread, but if no one has told you:

Dr. Dre produced the two most influential albums in hip hop history (Straight Outta Compton, The Chronic)

So is he influential?

 

[JustCKing]

Him rapping is a joke since he has a team of ghost writers.



Flat out wrong with this. Jermaine Dupri used the Dre blueprint from 92-96 for albums by Da Brat and Kriss Kross. Those albums were heavily influenced enough that Death Row dissed JD and Da Brat a couple times. Diddy has stated in interviews that Death Row was one of their inspirations.



After 2001 dropped Dre was everywhere and you had cats using recent beats as their own (Ja Rule, Mary J Blige, and Faith Evans come to mind as using beats that were 3-4 years old).



And Timbo/Missy took their blueprint from DeVante and ran with it for the 2nd Aaliyah album and beyond.



Statement is flat out and

And this is irrelevant in terms of who bit Timbo's style or the influence he had. Everybody took or borrowed something from someone else's blueprint. Devante was the mentor, so of course they would pick up something from him. Even still, there's a huge difference between Timbo's production and Devante's production even in the 90's. Tim's productions were always more Hip Hop than Devante's.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

He has a point snoop was all over The Chronic

The fukk....

No he doesn't have a fukking point because Dr Dre blew up before The Chronic came out. So no, Snoop didn't blow him up. Didn't realize NWA was an obscu underground rap group no one heard of.

 

[MouseTeeth]

Tall Israeli should b negged on site for this outlandish thread.

 

[Zach Lowe]

R u seriously citing JD as a dude who came up with an entire? U do realize he's the biggest biter in rap history right? U do understand that right?

I'm saying JD bit the west but it was before Dre even blew up using the g-funk sound
So he must've been biting other west coast artists

 

[Zach Lowe]

Arguably the most influential hip hop producer of this newer era (2000--->) said he got his entire sound from a ONE Dr. Dre produced beat & you ask is Dre influential?

if you listen to Kanye's beats you'd know that's not true

Kanye is an idiot and has said that Mase, Ghostface, and RZA gave him his entire style (or something along those lines) at different times