Dr. Dre is always called influential but is he really?

Zach Lowe

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Quik and ATL went gold in 91 before Always Into Somethin dropped? :usure:

Idk when they went gold but they did eventually :yeshrug: even platinum in some cases :manny:

If they eventually went gold/plat that suggests that people cared about those records when they came out... it's not like people would suddenly cop that album 10 years later... albums usually decline in sales over time yet they still went gold and platinum
 

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All this talk about "playing instruments" proves you don't know what you're talking about because in rap all the cats who get additional keyboard credits are actually composing music not just playing keys

Dope producers can't advance because people like you keep co-signing :flabbynsick: producers like Dre/Timbo who need to keep dope young cats around to keep their sound relevant :sitdown:

And again this is not relevant to the topic which is whether or not Dre is influential

What kinda "real producer" and "GOAT producer" can't put out an album :huhldup:


The whole question of whether dre is influential is a no brainer. Of course he's influential, his sound defined an era. When you say west coast hip hop the first name that comes to mind is Dre point blank period. Same foes for producers like Timbo, Kanye, Marley Marl, Preme, etc. Their sound defined the era they came up in and producers who came after them all took a page out of their book. I agree that dre doesn't have an excuse for dropping an LP, except the fact that the bar is set so high for anything that he does bc his prior work is incredible, so it's almost impossible to top. Come on man, he's responsible for at the very least three of the greatest rap lps of all time and he's not influential ??? I don't get ur logic. Any of these "dope new cats" would bow in dres presence man gimme a break.
 

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The whole question of whether dre is influential is a no brainer. Of course he's influential, his sound defined an era. When you say west coast hip hop the first name that comes to mind is Dre point blank period. Same foes for producers like Timbo, Kanye, Marley Marl, Preme, etc. Their sound defined the era they came up in and producers who came after them all took a page out of their book. I agree that dre doesn't have an excuse for dropping an LP, except the fact that the bar is set so high for anything that he does bc his prior work is incredible, so it's almost impossible to top. Come on man, he's responsible for at the very least three of the greatest rap lps of all time and he's not influential ??? I don't get ur logic. Any of these "dope new cats" would bow in dres presence man gimme a break.

His sound defined an era? that's not even his sound

I just showed that Jermaine Dupri was sounding like the Chronic before the Chronic even came out

that's just a west coast style of beats that Dre did not come up with
 

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know your history

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the west coast sound is not exclusive to Dre

the only sound that Dre came up with originally was the 2001 sound that he's been on ever since
and even that was Scott Storch's template from Still DRE

and no one uses that sound except G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath
 

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Arguably the most influential hip hop producer of this newer era (2000--->) said he got his entire sound from a ONE Dr. Dre produced beat & you ask is Dre influential? :comeon:
 

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:stopitslime:

the west coast sound is not exclusive to Dre

the only sound that Dre came up with originally was the 2001 sound that he's been on ever since
and even that was Scott Storch's template from Still DRE

and no one uses that sound except G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath


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