Dr. Dre is always called influential but is he really?
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Reality Check
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@Reality Check link to some JD joints biting Dre
just because Dre thought he was biting doesn't mean he was
if you have to point out Kriss Kross albums as having Dre influenced beats then that shows that almost no one bit his beats
I can point out whoever since JD produced the tracks. He bit the blueprint Dre (and Hutch) laid out.
I doubt they would have dissed JD and Da Brat for no reason
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@Reality Check I'll check those out later
even if they bit g-funk that doesn't mean they bit Dre
g-funk is just p-funk samples anyway
even if they bit g-funk that doesn't mean they bit Dre
g-funk is just p-funk samples anyway
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stealthbomber
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"thats whats wrong with you nikkas, you nikkas is just like bytches
hoe ass nikkas talk too muthafukkin much"
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If dudes say his rapping is a joke because of writers, what makes his production not a joke? Everything he does has been with a complete team putting in a huge workload.
I can't hate on the quality classics he's ushered in, but some of the credit duke gets
I can't hate on the quality classics he's ushered in, but some of the credit duke gets
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Have any of the beatmakers that worked under Dre ever do the majority of the production on anyone else's album and been successful like they were with nikkaz4Life,The Chronic,Doggystyle,MMLP or The Documentary? 
Dre is lazy as fukk, but he's also a damn genius that can hear sounds nobody else can to make good songs into classics. And to say EVERYONE on the west wasn't biting the Death Row sound from 92-96
Not to mention that 2001 sound that brought back the west (Xzibit,Snoop,Kurupt) and carried G-Unit into some big hits (Poppin Them Thangs,G'd up,In Da Club,Westside Story,This Is How We Do etc...)
You nikkas sound ignorant as fukk.
Dre is lazy as fukk, but he's also a damn genius that can hear sounds nobody else can to make good songs into classics. And to say EVERYONE on the west wasn't biting the Death Row sound from 92-96
Not to mention that 2001 sound that brought back the west (Xzibit,Snoop,Kurupt) and carried G-Unit into some big hits (Poppin Them Thangs,G'd up,In Da Club,Westside Story,This Is How We Do etc...)You nikkas sound ignorant as fukk.
MouseTeeth
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@Reality Check link to some JD joints biting Dre
just because Dre thought he was biting doesn't mean he was
if you have to point out Kriss Kross albums as having Dre influenced beats then that shows that almost no one bit his beats
@MouseTeeth that whole "real producer" argument is fokkin played out and wrong
are you telling me dudes that make better music than him somehow fall short in "little idiosyncrasies"
you can portray Phil Jackson as a genius all you want but Jordan would've won his rings with or without him
not only that your whole post is irrelevant cuz we're talking about his relevance not whether or not he's a good producer
Agree to disagree...just cuz u make hot beats doesn't mean ur a great producer n just bc u don't play instruments doesn't mean u can't b a great producer, the best do both
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All this talk about "playing instruments" proves you don't know what you're talking about because in rap all the cats who get additional keyboard credits are actually composing music not just playing keys
Dope producers can't advance because people like you keep co-signing
producers like Dre/Timbo who need to keep dope young cats around to keep their sound relevant 
And again this is not relevant to the topic which is whether or not Dre is influential
What kinda "real producer" and "GOAT producer" can't put out an album
Thats what producers do. They take sounds and arrange them in suitable order to make a better track. He's known as an incredible producer not an incredible beat maker.If dudes say his rapping is a joke because of writers, what makes his production not a joke? Everything he does has been with a complete team putting in a huge workload.
I can't hate on the quality classics he's ushered in, but some of the credit duke gets
There was no Death Row sound that was just the west coast sound that existed before Dre even got on itHave any of the beatmakers that worked under Dre ever do the majority of the production on anyone else's album and been successful like they were with nikkaz4Life,The Chronic,Doggystyle,MMLP or The Documentary?
Dre is lazy as fukk, but he's also a damn genius that can hear sounds nobody else can to make good songs into classics. And to say EVERYONE on the west wasn't biting the Death Row sound from 92-96
You nikkas sound ignorant as fukk.
the only people who were on the 2001 sound were Dre-affiliated artists that doesn't show any influence at all
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Name some people that were using that sound before Dre was with NWA though
Some people have said Big Hutch, but who knows who was doing it first exactly..Dre perfected that style and put it on the map by making hits..it was indeed the Death Row sound and it was bitten by rappers and r&b singers too.
Name some people that were using that sound before Dre was with NWA though
Some people have said Big Hutch, but who knows who was doing it first exactly..Dre perfected that style and put it on the map by making hits..it was indeed the Death Row sound and it was bitten by rappers and r&b singers too.
Dre got the sound from Quik or Above the Law
They weren't super underground albums either they all went gold and platinum
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That album came out before the Chronic and before G-funk really popped off like that
So it's west coast influenced but not Dre influenced