Do you believe in God? (2022 edition)

Do you believe a higher power?

  • Yes

    Votes: 107 58.5%
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  • Maybe but not completely sure

    Votes: 24 13.1%

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Koichos

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Sccit, I realize that you would be well aware of this, but I felt the point had to be emphasized for the benefit of the general readership.

WHATS YOUR PROBLEM WITH HIS USERNAME?
Perhaps because of the idol. But בַּעַל Baʿal was just a euphemism; the actual name of the ancient deity that the Biblical writers referred to in Hebrew as בַּעַל Baʿal was really בֵּל Bél. They avoided using these idols' exact names even then, in accordance with Sh'mοt 23:13!

Apart from its early use for a woman's 'husband' (for example:
בַּעַל אִשָּׁה baʿal ʾishah, בַּעַל הָאִשָּׁה baʿal haʾishah in Sh'mοt 21:3, 21:22 respectively), even God Himself uses the term in the Messianic passage of Yirm'yahu Chapter 31 with respect to His role over Yissraʾel
לֹא כַבְּרִית אֲשֶׁר כָּרַֽתִּי אֶת־אֲבוֹתָם
בְּיוֹם הֶחֱזִיקִי בְיָדָם לְהוֹצִיאָם מֵאֶֽרֶץ מִצְרָֽיִם
אֲשֶׁר־הֵֽמָּה הֵפֵֽרוּ אֶת־בְּרִיתִי
וְאָנֹכִי בָּעַֽלְתִּי בָם
נְאֻם־ה׳׃
'It will not be like the deal that I cut with their ancestors
on the day that I grabbed their hands to bring them out of Mitz'rayim
because they broke that deal,
even though I was a Lord over them,'
ʾAdοnay declares.

Many of our Sages were similarly known:

  • Rav Méʾir Baʿal Hanés (the Fourth Generation Tannaʾ, floruit 3920 AM)
  • Shimʿon Kayyaraʾ (the 'Baha"g' = Baʿal Halachοt G'dolοt)
  • Yaʿakov ben ʾAshér (the 'Baʿal HaṬurim', after his halachic compendium ʾArbaʿah Ṭurim)
  • Yissraʾel ben ʾElʿazar (the 'Besh"t' = Baʿal Shém Ṭov)
Furthermore, when the Torah is read aloud during ceremonial, public Scriptural readings in our prayer-houses every Monday, Thursday and Shabbat morning and also Shabbat afternoon (as well as on other Jewish feast days and days of fasting), it's lead by the ceremonial public Torah-reader and he is known as the בַּעַל קְרִיאָה baʿal k'riyʾah. The prayer-leader is similarly known as בַּעַל תְּפִלָּה baʿal t'fillah.

etc. etc. etc.


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The word בַּעַל baʿal also occurs in ʾIddish as a Hebrew loanword and is found in numerous ʾIddish compounds where it is shortened to בּעַל bal. The following is a typical ʾIddish sentence taken from a literary source (Yoysef Rabin, a highly-talented Sovyet ʾIddish writer)
.מײן איידעם איז נעבעך געװען א פראסטער בעל־מלאכה, װאס האט קאם מיט צרות צונויפגעשטוקעװעט די בידנע חיונה
My son-in-law, the poor soul, was a simple artisan who had the most difficult time scraping out a meager living.
בעל־מלאכה bal-m'luche is an ʾIddish compound derived from two Hebrew words: בַּעַל baʿal + מְלָאכָה m'laʾchah. Other examples are בעל־מלחמה bal-milchume ('soldier'; בַּעַל baʿal + מִלְחָמָה mil'hamah), בעל־עגלה bal-egule ('expressman'; בַּעַל baʿal + עֲגָלָה ʿagalah).

etc. etc. etc.
 

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1.THE SCRIPTURES IS IN HEBREW
To be fair, Hebrew is a highly context-sensitive language and those with rather limited havanah (who are unable to read, write or speak Hebrew) cannot be expected to grasp all the subtle nuances of the language. Note also that the 'old testament' is written in any language other than Hebrew—so of course the only instances in which its readers will ever see the word Baʿal is in its context as a proper noun.

2.NOTHING BLASPHEMOUS OF THE WORD LORD. IN HEBREW, WE USE THE WORD ADONI (MY LORD) AS A FORM OF “MR.” WHEN ADDRESSING SOMEONE SARCASTICALLY. ITS THE SAME LIKE CLAIMING THE WORD “OVERSEER” IS BLASPHEMOUS. JUST BECAUSE GOD IS THE OVERSEER OF MANKIND DOESNT MAKE IT BLASPHEMOUS TO CALL SOMEONE ELSE THE OVERSEER OF SOMETHING ELSE.. LOL
Yes, but אֲדוֹנִי ʾadoni ('sir!') is spelled with a hirik gadol (=man) and not a kamatz (=God), whereas בַּעַל has no such form. I understand your point, but Colicat's contention (albeit through plain ignorance of the Hebrew language) is with the term בַּעַל and its use outside of the ancient deity; though in fact בַּעַל is used in various contexts, the majority of which have nothing whatever to do with deities (idols).
 

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To be fair, Hebrew is a highly context-sensitive language and those with rather limited havanah (who are unable to read, write or speak Hebrew) cannot be expected to grasp all the subtle nuances of the language. Note also that the 'old testament' is written in any language other than Hebrew—so of course the only instances in which its readers will ever see the word Baʿal is in its context as a proper noun.


Yes, but
אֲדוֹנִי ʾadoni ('sir!') is spelled with a hirik gadol (=man) and not a kamatz (=God), whereas בַּעַל has no such form. I understand your point, but Colicat's contention (albeit through plain ignorance of the Hebrew language) is with the term בַּעַל and its use outside of the ancient deity; though in fact בַּעַל is used in various contexts, the majority of which have nothing whatever to do with deities (idols).
Sccit, I realize that you would be well aware of this, but I felt the point had to be emphasized for the benefit of the general readership.


Perhaps because of the idol. But
בַּעַל Baʿal was just a euphemism; the actual name of the ancient deity that the Biblical writers referred to in Hebrew as בַּעַל Baʿal was really בֵּל Bél. They avoided using these idols' exact names even then, in accordance with Sh'mοt 23:13!

Apart from its early use for a woman's 'husband' (for example:
בַּעַל אִשָּׁה baʿal ʾishah, בַּעַל הָאִשָּׁה baʿal haʾishah in Sh'mοt 21:3, 21:22 respectively), even God Himself uses the term in the Messianic passage of Yirm'yahu Chapter 31 with respect to His role over Yissraʾel

Many of our Sages were similarly known:

  • Rav Méʾir Baʿal Hanés (the Fourth Generation Tannaʾ, floruit 3920 AM)
  • Shimʿon Kayyaraʾ (the 'Baha"g' = Baʿal Halachοt G'dolοt)
  • Yaʿakov ben ʾAshér (the 'Baʿal HaṬurim', after his halachic compendium ʾArbaʿah Ṭurim)
  • Yissraʾel ben ʾElʿazar (the 'Besh"t' = Baʿal Shém Ṭov)
Furthermore, when the Torah is read aloud during ceremonial, public Scriptural readings in our prayer-houses every Monday, Thursday and Shabbat morning and also Shabbat afternoon (as well as on other Jewish feast days and days of fasting), it's lead by the ceremonial public Torah-reader and he is known as the בַּעַל קְרִיאָה baʿal k'riyʾah. The prayer-leader is similarly known as בַּעַל תְּפִלָּה baʿal t'fillah.

etc. etc. etc.


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The word בַּעַל baʿal also occurs in ʾIddish as a Hebrew loanword and is found in numerous ʾIddish compounds where it is shortened to בּעַל bal. The following is a typical ʾIddish sentence taken from a literary source (Yoysef Rabin, a highly-talented Sovyet ʾIddish writer)

בעל־מלאכה bal-m'luche is an ʾIddish compound derived from two Hebrew words: בַּעַל baʿal + מְלָאכָה m'laʾchah. Other examples are בעל־מלחמה bal-milchume ('soldier'; בַּעַל baʿal + מִלְחָמָה mil'hamah), בעל־עגלה bal-egule ('expressman'; בַּעַל baʿal + עֲגָלָה ʿagalah).

etc. etc. etc.

@Colicat So are you going to repent and apologize for accusing me of blaspheming?

I'm waiting.
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Don't believe in some magic sky daddy who created and controls everything but do appreciate the Abrahamic religions. Definitely one of the craziest feats of current civilization is keeping those religions around in some form for thousands of years. Some of the stories are pretty good too. :ehh:
 

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@Colicat So are you going to repent and apologize for accusing me of blaspheming?

I'm waiting.
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The question was and still remains: As a believer, why do you use the username whilst knowing the varying contexts?

The ignorance you and your flying monkeys are getting at have nothing to do with with my posts.

The bottom line is that you get a cheap thrill off of the conflation of the name.

It’s similar to throwing rocks and hiding your hands then enjoying watching others dispute who did it.

You and your flying monkeys may try to gaslight others. I know who is throwing stones.
 

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The question was and still remains: As a believer, why do you use the username whilst knowing the varying contexts?

The ignorance you and your flying monkeys are getting at have nothing to do with with my posts.
Contradicting yourself. Do I know or am I ignorant? And not only am I ignorant but so are @Sccit and @Koichos.

@Koichos looks like he actually writes and reads Hebrew. Do you? If not you're the ignorant one out of the two mentioned.


But I know in your heart you want to apologize and seems like you're dealing with a spirit of double-mindedness and pride that's making it hard for you to apologize.

So I accept.
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That would explain why you're trying to be dominant (masculine) and docile (feminine) at the same time as well that's called double-mindedness.

JPS Tanakh Psalm 119:113
113 I hate them that are of a double mind, But Thy law do I love.
James 1:8 kjv
8 A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.

1 Peter 3:8 kjv
8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

But @Colicat I do want to sincerely say thank you. Dealing with you and quoting all these scriptures I just learned something new and insightful about myself and the scriptures.
 

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The question was and still remains: As a believer, why do you use the username whilst knowing the varying contexts?

The ignorance you and your flying monkeys are getting at have nothing to do with with my posts.

The bottom line is that you get a cheap thrill off of the conflation of the name.

It’s similar to throwing rocks and hiding your hands then enjoying watching others dispute who did it.

You and your flying monkeys may try to gaslight others. I know who is throwing stones.



WHY ARE U CALLING PEOPLE “MONKEYS” WHILE KNOWING THE VARYING CONTEXT?

:mjpls:
 

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HEBREW WAS MY FIRST LANGUAGE

I ALWAYS GET A KICK OUT OF POSTERS TRYING TO TELL ME WHAT THE SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING

:yeshrug:
I didn't know that. Gave out some rep to all three of ya'll. This interaction helped me reach a new level of understanding.
 
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I’ve always been a believe of God (hence my username) because this universe is far too complex and well designed for it to just magically come out of nowhere and I had instances in my life where I felt God’s presences which helped stir me away from certain troubles and dangerous situations.

I know that most of TLR tend to lean more on the agnostic side but I figured I asked anyway.

:yeshrug:
“We’ll designed” children literally die of cancer.
 

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WHY ARE U CALLING PEOPLE “MONKEYS” WHILE KNOWING THE VARYING CONTEXT?

:mjpls:

:sas1: Flying Monkeys

I actually laughed. Point taken. The phrase flying monkeys has one context.

If you are offended, oh well.

The question you should ask is if God is offended by the usage of Baal, knowing the context.

But do you though.
 
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