Its not like Lost where i can’t even stomach watching the earlier seasons. I can still watch and enjoy seasons 1-6 and enjoy it. Hell Season 6 has the best finale of all the seasons in my opionion
This thread is asking to individuals, so there's that, subjective opinion
No series guns for top 5 because top 5 varies, people annoint it. Almost every "top" show I can think of happened organically. Secondly GOT wasnt gunning for top 5, it hit a point where that's what the masses were saying it was/could be. The show took off to heights they didn't imagine. Westworld was a show HBO launched gunning for the top, GOT was a popular book series but not the phenomena the show made it
Lastly, a lot of people don't feel the whole series is ruined due to a bad ending.
So yea, when TV guide sits down to make 2020 top 5, it may not be there, but for a lot of individuals it will be
Its not like Lost where i can’t even stomach watching the earlier seasons. I can still watch and enjoy seasons 1-6 and enjoy it. Hell Season 6 has the best finale of all the seasons in my opionion
I refuse to believe that any show could fall off as hard as the walking dead from season 4-5 onwardUnless the series finale is the single greatest episode of TV in history....of course it ruined the series. How could it not?
People in here talking about "well yeah....I mean, the last 2 seasons were trash but it's still top 5". HOW SWAY?
What other show had 2 bad seasons in a row this late in the game, and is still considered top 5? What other show had a final season this universally panned by critics and fans alike....and is still considered GOAT material?
shyt is crazy talk.
It seems like people don't want to admit they wasted 8 years of their life investing in this series, only for the writers to completely fukk it up at the finish line. It's a bitter pill to swallow but let's keep it real here. I haven't seen a show fall off this hard, this abruptly since "Dexter".
Fred.
I refuse to believe that any show could fall off as hard as the walking dead from season 4-5 onward
I refuse to believe that any show could fall off as hard as the walking dead from season 4-5 onward
Ehh, I dont follow everything they say but they said they wanted to finish strong like B.B. furthermore this show was not set out to be some top show, it was a niche genre that easily could’ve done Rome numbers - simply resonated with those who are interested in the genre/book readers, the budgets they gave the earlier seasons reflect that. Juxtapose that to the $$ dropped on westworld which hbo developed specifically to be the next GOT,Large sections of this post are 100% false.
"GOT" was 100% gunning for top 5, Weiss and Benioff said they hope "GOT" is mentioned alongside "Breaking Bad". They consider that show and "The Wire" as the GOATs in TV history.
They literally stalked episode ratings on IMDB after "The Battle Of The b*stards", to see if it rated higher than "Ozymandias", which is (or was, not sure now) the highest rated episode in history.
So....yeah. Top 5 shows don't just fall out of the sky. There has to be a conscious effort on the part of the creative team to make it happen.
Now, whether or not they're able to pull it off....or whether or not it resonates with fans....is an entirely different story. But Weiss and Benioff set out to make a GOAT tier show.
Lastly, as far as the whole "everything is subjective, individuals will still have this in their top 5"....that's completely pointless because there's people with "The Big Bang Theory" in their top 5....what I'm saying is, no prestige drama from the last 20 years has had a final season this poorly received. By fans or critics. So that alone disqualifies it from the tier Weiss and Benioff were aiming for, regardless of individual opinion.
Fred.
I refuse to believe that any show could fall off as hard as the walking dead from season 4-5 onward
It was Bernthal that kept me watching. Man's acting was on another level.TWD bit the dust during season 2 and that long ass search for sophia
shyt season one wasn’t even all that hot imo...but I was willing to continue watching bcuz of how great the comic series was
Did they literally recycle a plot around a bad guy with his crazy followers 2-3 times while never actually building towards a conclusion that would end the central problem of the show but manage to tease that they were for a while only to reveal it to be a lie that a totally worthless character was telling to get protection from an army convoy? Walking dead at this point is I think 9 seasons in while not building towards any sort of finale while to my knowledge alternating between killing characters for shock value and letting everyone else stagnate to the point that they don’t matter. It’s really hard to botch a show that bad unless you’re trying to.Boardwalk Empire and nBSG would like a word...
It didn’t peak as high, but still managed to fall that hard anywayI don't consider "TWD" to be on the level of the aforementioned shows in this thread so it didn't have as far to fall in the first place.
Fred.
Ehh, I dont follow everything they say but they said they wanted to finish strong like B.B. furthermore this show was not set out to be some top show, it was a niche genre that easily could’ve done Rome numbers - simply resonated with those who are interested in the genre/book readers, the budgets they gave the earlier seasons reflect that. Juxtapose that to the $$ dropped on westworld which hbo developed specifically to be the next GOT,
prestige drama, flagship show on their network, you cannot in all honestly say GOT started with that same intent.
And how is subjectivity pointless when the thread is about “did it ruin the series FOR YOU?” that’s the whole point, stop acting like those of us who said it didn’t ruin the series are in denial, it’s a question to individuals here, not critics, not potential top 10 list aggregators, the individual posters here....
It was Bernthal that kept me watching. Man's acting was on another level.