Same thing with Jean-Michel Basquiat...the only reason why Blacks know him is cause white folks is propping him up and his Sisters kept his legacy alive.
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Gotta break the generational curses. I think jimi got shytted on early on by black folks but ended up having Miles Davis try to be like him. Early on jazz musicians got shytted on the same way as blues musicians by the communal black community. That’s what the cross roads symbolizes—stay in the communal black community or go secular which is still a Mennonite or Amish tradition but we took that Robert Johnson story literal. It also represents areas where transients gathered and told stories, info and played music.Jelly Roll Martin got disowned because he played in brothels(which is where black classical musicians got segregated to because whites hated black peoples playing classical or orchestral music, they still do), but when he started getting big tips his mom overlooked it. Bringing a sax or a trumpet into church or the home was considered bringing the devil in. Like in another post, we got white washed out our own shyt. Our legends played this music but the shyt they went through was so Bad that old jazz musicians don’t like they word jazz. They didn’t like playing blues because they felt cacs were twisting it into a primitive entertainment. They had to tour in the south, sometimes stopped by racist cacs to perform on the spot and if they didn’t they could get killed. Miles Davis turned his back at concerts because he didn’t wanna be a monkey and white people still call him ungrateful for it. They call it just “music”, “group music”, etc. we have to fight for our stuff. Its also the reason why people want these musicians to play their magnum opus from certain eras but those musicians themselves hate it and say “what about my new shyt”? Too much pain and bad memories. A lot of black musicians are modernists which is why we always jump to new shyt— because we hope the future will be better. a lot of known and unknown musicians became activists and people who worked in education to get shyt passed to educate people and fix racism. That’s how bad it was. I encourage this forum To read that Bebop book by Scott devereaux which @IllmaticDelta recommended me for my thesis paper
I never thought about this.
Jimi went to his High School and spat on by black folks because he wasn't making music about the civil rights movement
Yeah he got shyt on and then had the most hip, most forward thinking musician and wanting to incorporate his swag into his, wanting to play in his band. Same dude who was a hero to black people in prison when he got locked up and forgave jimi for smashing his wife. That’s a big ass co-sign. Also inspired miles to do that fusion stuff. Not everyone doesnt give people their flowers. Miles put Out on The Corner and jazz cacs hated it but the streets loved it and played it at parties. Miles also was the one who said africa and Latin America have next up before he died. Also jazz was supported by people who had those apartment parties. We always move to the next shyt because I think we see the writing on the wall when we get pimped out. It alot of factors to why we do bad with keeping up with our legacies. Miles also felt like Louis Armstrong was c00ning which is why he turned his back. Bebop attitude partly came from feeling like they were being hoed out in jazz and they didn’t want to feel dehumanized playing bluesJimi went to his High School and spat on by black folks because he wasn't making music about the civil rights movement
Then black folks say "we created rock" but I have never heard Jimi on black radio ever in my lifetime.
Yep...we gotta support our own and our legends.
It got so bad with Basquiat his siblings came out tryna control the narrative cause them racists fukks was tryna dictate about his life's story.I never thought about this.
It just a pattern we’ve been stuck in that people have been trying to break. We are due for another bebop era with the way music is making us look degenerate. Who knows another group of forward thinking artists might pop out and do it right. The gotta fight with cacs who have been trying to “intelligize” our music to make themselves look good while they push degenerate forms of us. The beboppers tried to inform people and demand respect. Amiri Baraka and others used it to get shyt done. Dizzy and Duke spread the shyt all over the world. But then the next things came, the creation of rock and a form of rnb which reduced band members for the sake of profits(they were tired of people like Miles who knew their worth and punched out suits for fuxking with the money) and further commercialized music. Then there’s underfunded schools and ignorant parents that don’t pass it down. And then there’s cases like where the owner of I think Jet magazine was beefing with Reginald Lewis so he didn’t put him in his magazine. It wasn’t till after his death anyone found out he was a Black Billionaire. Imagine if more of us knew about that copped his book and found out what the “Demon Work Ethic” was. Some shyt I don’t find out about till later and then it changes my modus operandi. It’s not like I was hating on them until I needed to use them to brag to cacs—I just didn’t know or was taught. I’m sure my parents knew who Reginald Lewis was so why ain’t they tell me and make me read his book when I was reading like crazy? It just doesn’t come up till you go and check if a certain group of people are lying to you
