Did Black Folks really create Country Music? That’s what shea butter twitter is claiming now.

[O.Red]

Hell you can argue black folks threw R&B in the trash too! It's not nearly as ubiquitous as it once was. It still gets made, not denying that, but hardly has the same leeway it once did.


Still a stupid ass reason to throw your shyt away.

And the R&B that still gets made has fallen off tremendously

The male artists still haven't evolved from or surpassed R Kelly, and the female artists have been remaking the same 3-4 Sza and Jhene Aiko songs for a decade

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

 

[Space Cowboy]

This is because of marketing/perceptions on how said artist or music is being marketed. For example

this first 1/2 of this song is pure Funk-Rock but was marketed as White "Metal" music



this is basically Hard Rock/ Metal (Funky though) and was marketed as "Black" Soul/Funk




......many "black" people willthe Sabbath song whileat the Ohio Players song because of marketing/presentation w/o fully realizing what they just heard musically speaking. Just reverse the example for white people, because they do the same (Hendrix vs Ernie Isley)


Black Rock music marketed as Black Rock to black people doesn't work

Black Rock marketed as Funk to Black people does work

Didn't catch the last bit until you got quoted. Very good observation. Repped. It's a shame it got like this.

 

[The Fade]

Hell you can argue black folks threw R&B in the trash too! It's not nearly as ubiquitous as it once was. It still gets made, not denying that, but hardly has the same leeway it once did.


Still a stupid ass reason to throw your shyt away.

I think rnb got too commodified. Instead of it becoming a lifestyle it got whored out. Ever since minstrel shows we were getting pimped out. The music industry was founded on pimping black music.

As long as it’s tied to commercial interests we won’t own it truly. Look at hip hop right now, it’s showing the signs. It’s just a vehicle for non blacks to get rich. It was three labels that owned everything + plus exploitation by the Italian mob and government in the beginning of the music industry . From complex to the Indian ran hiphop blogs. It’s a lifestyle in places like Japan but here it’s twisted into degeneracy and death. Jazz still kind of exists kind of due to hipster ism and bohemianism and spiritualism —which is a lifestyle. It is also tied into knowing history and other things. You have to invest a lot of time into jazz to play it and it becomes a part of your life. Jazz is also recognized by the government and had special praise as Americas classical music, so it is tied to the culture outside of pimping it out

Only way for us to practice naturally is if have Congo Square type stuff where we gather as a people and play just because or people got get out and dance. When something becomes a product it has a predestined obsolescence—a short, artificial life and death circle.

This is capitalism remember. It’s all about cutting expenses and maximizing profit. That’s why big shows back in the minstrel days became reduced to jazz bands which became reduced down to rock bands which came reduced down to solo acts and now with AI further reduction and maximum profit to people like the Granges and Ari Emmanuel. That’s when a product becomes cheap and lifeless

 

[O.Red]

I think rnb got too commodified. Instead of it becoming a lifestyle it got whored out. Ever since minstrel shows we were getting pimped out. The music industry was founded on pimping black music.

As long as it’s tied to commercial interests we won’t own it truly. Look at hip hop right now, it’s showing the signs. It’s just a vehicle for non whites to get rich. It was three labels that owned everything + plus exploitation by the Italian mob and government. From complex to the Indian ran hiphop blogs.
Only way for us to practice naturally is if have Congo Square type stuff where we gather as a people and play just because or people got get out and dance. When something becomes a product it has a predestined obsolescence—a short, artificial life and death circle.

This is capitalism remember. It’s all about cutting expenses and maximizing profit. That’s why big shows back in the minstrel became reduced to jazz bands which became reduced down to rock bands which came reduced down to solo acts and now with AI further reduction and maximum profit to people like the Granges and Ari Emmanuel. That’s when a product becomes cheap and lifeless

All black art is too commodified

And black folks are almost as much to blame as the vultures. Hip hop wasn't stolen as much as it was sold

There also tends to be a lack of craftsmanship in black art, especially when it's established that there's a bag to be made. That's how you get a Tyler Perry but no Scorcese equivalent

Black people are so good at things we don't take them as seriously as people that aren't. We don't realize that those people are always watching and waiting for a chance to absorb, commodify, and curate our shyt. And the curators write the history books and shape the future

 

[Space Cowboy]

I think rnb got too commodified. Instead of it becoming a lifestyle it got whored out. Ever since minstrel shows we were getting pimped out. The music industry was founded on pimping black music.

As long as it’s tied to commercial interests we won’t own it truly. Look at hip hop right now, it’s showing the signs. It’s just a vehicle for non blacks to get rich. It was three labels that owned everything + plus exploitation by the Italian mob and government in the beginning of the music industry . From complex to the Indian ran hiphop blogs. It’s a lifestyle in places like Japan but here it’s twisted into degeneracy and death. Jazz still kind of exists kind of due to hipster ism and bohemianism and spiritualism —which is a lifestyle. It is also tied into knowing history and other things. You have to invest a lot of time into jazz to play it and it becomes a part of your life. Jazz is also recognized by the government and had special praise as Americas classical music, so it is tied to the culture outside of pimping it out

Only way for us to practice naturally is if have Congo Square type stuff where we gather as a people and play just because or people got get out and dance. When something becomes a product it has a predestined obsolescence—a short, artificial life and death circle.

This is capitalism remember. It’s all about cutting expenses and maximizing profit. That’s why big shows back in the minstrel days became reduced to jazz bands which became reduced down to rock bands which came reduced down to solo acts and now with AI further reduction and maximum profit to people like the Granges and Ari Emmanuel. That’s when a product becomes cheap and lifeless

I'm not sure why we can't have our own labels. We have had them in the past but we either sell them or they fall off. For all the talk of white people profiting off black music, hip hop and other genres were sold to the whites the same way BET was. I dislike the lack of accountability. Black people have contributed much to us being deplatformed.

 

[Samori Toure]

Country music or that blue grass shyt is trash.

Folk music, in that realm of music, is tolerable. Even good at times

But country music is not something to be proud of

Folk music in the USA has it's origin in Blues music too. Look up musicians like Mississippi John Hurt, Big Bill Brozny, Brownie McGhee and Sonny Terry.

 

[Space Cowboy]

All black art is too commodified

And black folks are almost as much to blame as the vultures. Hip hop wasn't stolen as much as it was sold

There also tends to be a lack of craftsmanship in black art, especially when it's established that there's a bag to be made. That's how you get a Tyler Perry but no Scorcese equivalent

Black people are so good at things we don't take them as seriously as people that aren't. We don't realize that those people are always watching and waiting for a chance to absorb, commodify, and curate our shyt. And the curators write the history books and shape the future

I've said this. There's no black Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola. White people get to make shyt like Star Wars and Star Trek. They are truly free to explore what they want. I used to think it was because white people was stopping us from reaching those heights but the older I get the more I see black people often limit ourselves from reaching them. Andre 3000 wanted to make a flute album and you had all The Coli and the rest of black folks clowning him. Until it did numbers. People want to put black artists into boxes. Andre is a rapper, so he must always be a rapper in their eyes. Even though he's successful black folks still want to act like crabs and define who and what Andre can do. White people didn't decide this. Black people did.

They don't understand the potentialities of art other than a bag when the entire reason white people and America is so dominant is because our greatest export is our art and media. Art controls narratives and art is the greatest power. If you can control someone's art you can control their people. Without art you have no way nor method to express yourself. The pen truly is mightier than the sword.

 

[The Fade]

All black art is too commodified

And black folks are almost as much to blame as the vultures. Hip hop wasn't stolen as much as it was sold

There also tends to be a lack of craftsmanship in black art, especially when it's established that there's a bag to be made. That's how you get a Tyler Perry but no Scorcese equivalent

Black people are so good at things we don't take them as seriously as people that aren't. We don't realize that those people are always watching and waiting for a chance to absorb, commodify, and curate our shyt

Yes the craftsmanship is what makes music timeless and memorable for ever. Which is why Charlie Parker, Dizzy, Robert Johnson, Prince, Michael Jackson, Larry Graham, Lil Wayne and Coltrane get remembered. All of those guys were obsessed practice. This is why Coltrane is a personal hero of mine. He practiced so much that his shyt became too advant garde and abstract because he had already done everything material and he still had a literal cult worship him. You cant make a song like Giant Steps on vibes alone, you gotta live this shyt. Young Thug, Uzi, used to rap and make songs everyday just for the hell of it. Their subject matter is questionable but they actually practiced their craft, that’s why their songs are good lyrically but also a good commercial product, not just one. Same with Wayne and Kodak, they rapped so much that now it’s just second nature. It’s just a reflex and we all benefit from it as consumers. This why they got crazy fans, they cultivated taste with their ability to rap

We also gotta see that sexy red is obviously here to kill the product. While generating outrage money. This is also why having taste is important and that comes from practice and living the lifestyle. Taste creates gatekeepers. If we want to save rap, you can’t just be a consumer— we all have participate in this culture to keep legitimacy. It means doing your research, making beats, writing rhymes for yourself, hanging around In cultural hotspots, making non blacks check in if they want an interview or our swag to use, make Arnault PAY for nikkas to shout out his brands in songs. You gotta live this life the RIGHT WAY. Places like The Booth is good because it is a gathering place for the culture. A transient station just like the “crossroads”. The Coli is relatively gatekept which is why EVERYONE comes here to steal content because it had some credibility

 

[O.Red]

They don't understand the potentialities of art other than a bag when the entire reason white people and America is so dominant is because our greatest export is our art and media. Art controls narratives and art is the greatest power. If you can control someone's art you can control their people. Without art you have no way nor method to express yourself. The pen truly is mightier than the sword.

Yep

Society is shaped by art. The movies we watch, books we read, and the music we listen to shapes behavior for a period of time

Black folks don't take this as seriously as we should. Cacs created Hollywood for a reason

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

We negging posters for listening to country music now @KnickstapeCity

If you choose to miss out on good music, then that’s on you

 

[The Fade]

I'm not sure why we can't have our own labels. We have had them in the past but we either sell them or they fall off. For all the talk of white people profiting off black music, hip hop and other genres were sold to the whites the same way BET was. I dislike the lack of accountability. Black people have contributed much to us being deplatformed.

It all comes down to us needing resource to exploit that will fund our whole society. And also to use those funds to defend said resources because our society depends on it. This is why I believe that Esau story is more than just the Hebrew Israelite narrative. It talks about selling your birthright and then being salty about the result. We gave up watermelon even though it helped us survive and made us rich. They made it into a dehumanizing joke that stole our dignity just for eating it and now they got rich off it. We give up our music even though some of this music gave us black pride and actual militancy that changed government legislation. Sexy redd is watermelonizing rap right now so they can push people like NF by making us ashamed of it. This should’ve been a resource to fund our community with start ups and infrascture building but now most likely the white execs are funding cops, prisons and possibly coups with our masters. It’s like land, you can’t just buy land, you have develop it and put people on top of it who will justify the owner having it. You can’t just have shyt, you have to tie it to your life. When you put your life on the line, that’s when you get power and value

 

[KnickstapeCity]

We negging posters for listening to country music now @KnickstapeCity

If you choose to miss out on good music, then that’s on you

Nah, you got negged for being a c00n.




This nikka cosplaying in real life. I’m talmbout this nikka got a pickup truck with a confederate flag on the back of that mf, in his cowboys jeans, boots, shirt, and hat riding around bumping the Best of Luke Combs.

 

[Koba St]

We like telling non blacks to stop claiming our shyt. Let’s do the same thing and stop claiming other peoples shyt too.

Black Americans basically created virtually all forms of music so let the cacs have this one.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

We like telling non blacks to stop claiming our shyt. Let’s do the same thing and stop claiming other peoples shyt too.

Black Americans basically created virtually all forms of music so let the cacs have this one.

Let’s stop the appropriation of cac music