Denis Villeneuve 'Arrival'

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I still don't get the point if that scene where she's in her tent and she's talking the squid. Seemed really random IMO.

To me that showed how her reality was changing, it was just a transition/blend of her present/future.
 

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hawkeye doesn't experience time non-linearly like louise because he doesn't learn their language like she does. So he doesnt know the future like her

My question is is she the only one that truly mastered the language and therefore be the only one that can see the future? The alien was telling her that they needed humanity and humanity owed the aliens due to them helping them for 3,000 years what was that about?
 
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Some of these responses got me like :upsetfavre:

Were you guys on your phone during the movie or is it too deep for ya ? This movie was great. Been awhile since a good serious sci fi flick like this dropped.

Way better than interstellar. And i like nolans work.
 

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My question is is she the only one that truly mastered the language and therefore be the only one that can see the future? The alien was telling her that they needed humanity and humanity owed the aliens due to them helping them for 3,000 years what was that about?
well you see her teaching a class on the language, i think it's a safe assumption that other people mastered the language. she was the first though. the aliens need the humans help to survive in 3000 years.
 

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well you see her teaching a class on the language, i think it's a safe assumption that other people mastered the language. she was the first though. the aliens need the humans help to survive in 3000 years.

Oh oh so how does that bring world peace though that's what I had trouble understanding, why would the general just be like oh let me stop being fakkit because some random person called me up and told me some obscure stuff. And besides, a general answering an unsolicited American telephone call when he was cut off from the world? And why would they react in that way? Cutoff each other world power when they at that moment supposedly have a common enemy, the alien? Also, I cannot imagine a world where a shyt ton of people knowing the future can bring world peace, humans are exploitive in their very nature. I dunno it was a cool concept but it had a lot of plot holes and overall shallowness. You can freely traverse the 4th dimension but the whole highlight of that was knowing that your life will turn out shytty in the end? That's the curse of having a heroine.
 

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hmmm

-The premise of the film is aliens land down and when they land down the military government wants to communicate with the aliens to see like what they want. Every alien movie you see they come down, shoot everybody up, take the planet, take the resources. Aliens always seem have the same mentality as Colonalist. Yet we say there isintelligent life it never really lines up that way based n that premise. So in this film its a little different cause they actually come down the federal governemnt is trying to find out what they on so they actually look for the worlds best linguist -----------------who happens to be Louise banks and they bring her forward because she can learn pretty much how they speak with their tongues. So there can be a conversation which we can ask 'What is your purpose here?". Thats pretty much the premise for the film. What made the movie dope imo was that the aliens came down on some let e holla at you steeze.

When it starts off you see this woman who is going on about her normal day. Even though every way she looks around everyone is on some other stuff. People are into the news. Nobody in her class people attention are somewhere else. She doesnt notice it though, she is still going on about her normal little everday routine. It is not until the change is directly in her face does she able to sort of setback & actually view it & recognize it.

What makes this movie so powerful is the concept of time. Because no matter what movie we watching the ultimate power is time. Whether you are looking at Interstellar, Dr. Strange, any action movie time is always the top. In this movie what they did was deep. The look at time as something to be remembered not just in the past, but also the future. That thought alone is crazy because we always been taught that meory deals w/ the past. Memory is just about remembering. Obtaining an experience and experiences dont always have to be in the past because of time line overlap one another it cypher or circle that means that you can dream in the future, prophetize in the future. You can see the future, you can remember the future and deja vu would be a aspect of people tappng into the future this is how. You might be thinking of something that happen a year from now then the moment come and your like I've been here. They really went into detail over that.

The next thing we have to pay attention to in this film is how they even enter inside of the ship. First of all they have to get on a skyjack which you see all the time when folks are working on high roof ceilings, scaffolding or powerlines. So they pump him up they get to the ship and they go a little bit more and they go and all of a sudden its some weighlessness. Like the gravity changes and they jump they go straight up but they land on the wall. The whole perspective has change. Perspective pertaining to the visual. When they start walking on the wall inside the spot. When we look at the screen we notice they are coming in on the ceiling from perspective of where we started from.

Now why may we be upside down. Because when we look at everything is upside down and we flip it back up again so they constantly try to show you that this thing is a visual thing. Visual communication because in speech speech denotes time. The visual through logirhythms and sigils and glyphs and medu neter it stands the test of time. How do we know that? Lets go to Kemet, let go to the land of the Olmecs. The glyphs are still there that knowledge is still encapsulate within those pyramids. So when we dealt with writing letters and writing script it stands the test of time. Time is the void meaning another dimension.

So initally they wanted her to translate the speaking tongue. She was like nah we are going to have this written. So they went into the who aspect of the written word.

They had 18 hours to speak to them & 2 hours lapse time in order for them to get back. Go ver all the information they got prep back up and go back in because they had to stabilize they ship for our air. You have to understand and we breathe a different air. Everyone doesnt breath that atmosphere. 18 hour work and sleep. Sleep is where the dreams came all her information was coming through visions, memories, dreams. Visual cortex lit up. When we sleep thats why we get submerge we this sort of virtual reality world, astral projection or whatever you choose to call it. The ship we have to pay attention to because the poster showed the ship, the trailer showed the ship, the trailer showed the ship. The movie keeps showing the ship because they want you to pay attention to the ship. Why? Because of the shape of the ship. They were 3 alignents of the ship -----one being with a flat side and curved side. The reason why they had this shape is because this shape is qoph. It is the 19th letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Qoph means back of the head. the back of the head being where the visual cortex lies.

Aliens were 2 aliens look like giant hands and each hand had 7 fingers they were really they feet. They names were Abbott & Costello. Before TV got popular shows were on the radio. people would listen to radio they would hear shows thats how War of the Worlds went down. Abbott & Costello were known for comedy. They were known for a routine and the routine was called Who's On First. The reason why who's on 1st was such a interesting concept was because they would talk about baseball. Anytime a movie talks about baseball they are talking about time like interstellar when the big cloud came to destroy the town.

. Why is this important in the movie they ask what happen. Language is important because that can create a war or create. Depending on the interpretation of the word. Who's on 1st was a reference to how we can get confuse in our languages esp. English because its so jacked up. Why Abbott & Costello? Abbott means father. Costello means o-shaped. O ovum that pertains to the woman. There was a period in time where only woman was allowed in the ship & she was talking with Costello. When she ask where Abbott was she was like Abbott was in the death process. Meaning the underworld. What father you know resides in the underworld = Osiris

The aliens themselves why they look the way they look. The hands = Heka you see this in Dr. Strange. Hands mean yod. Qoph is the 19th letter , Yod is the 1st letter in Tetragrammon. When you talk about the Kabbalah you are talking about to receive. This movie was about receiving knowledge from a higher frequency or high self. How do we become greater people etc? We commune with the higher self. These aliens just represented the higher self.

7 when dealing ith Qoph you a dealing w/ the constellation of Cetus. When you look at the aliens the were able to swim thru a median. When the woman went back her hair as floating around like she was in water. What makes Cetus so important is that the two 7's equaling 14.

Cetus is known Seshat she was known as the woman of the 7. She represent Cetus. She represents the 3 subsidiaries functions known was:

*geometry
*volume
*numbers

What was the communication between the aliens & the woman? They were circles. The circles looked like paintings like brushstrokes of paint, but when you look at them they had numbers on them. They keep measuring them. They showed that the letters had volumes. They were showing the female aspect of Tehuti is the scribe that represent language & the written word. Higher self communicating with us down to us by way of these language utilizing time. Also the 6 around the 1 in sacred geometry represents that hexagon, that metatron cube. Angles of light is how we are able to awaken that dorminant energy that are inside of us such as memory. What makes it deeper is that they were able to eject out of each one of their feet a liquid black substance that in term floated into the visual cortex screen and they would form these circular letters that would convey a message. That ink melanin google cephalod ink.

The director say he got inspiration from flies. If you go to the lake Victoria in the Motherland there is this phenomeon with midge flies. They are millions that procreate and swarms of them look like clouds. The male and female both make columns. The columns represent the Masonic doctrine and you're dealing with the keystone representing Cancer. Cancer represent the summer solstice. The surrounding zodiac makes a arch its held up by two pillars. Boaz & Joachim this is who Dr Ian & Dr. Louise represented. Joachim means grace of Yahweh while Boaz means strength. Ian means son of Yahweh. Louise is louis, ludwig meaning famous in battle, warrior strength. He had a very passive attitude in the movie. Dr. Louise was the aggressor. Pillars represent Jed you are talking about a situation where two people the whole world depends on these two.

The only reason this woman was able to translate was because of the dreams she was having. The dreams were really memories. What made the memories. What made the memories so profound was the memories were not in the past. She was having memories of the future. We have all these powerful areas in the brain that deal with that. Written language determines a person thinking a person thinking determines they reality and reality determines a paradigm. If we are constantly studied English and we got enemies constantly teaching us English and this written word. That means they are actually programming us to think a certain way. If we are thinking that way we are going to create a reality we are living in a paradigm that constant with what we want it to be. Because we are thinking like that. However if you think another way they called it linear autography. When they write a sentence its from left to right to left. They know beginning, middle, etc.

The child was the key. The child was a girl but you are talking maternal lineage, mithcondria DNA. Hannah and her name is palindrome that relates to how they see time. That is they way the communicate they language and her understanding that the change her thinking and allow her to understand language

Hannah means a gift from god. What did the aliens say to the woman we have a gift from humanity, a gift was the child because the child was the key for her.

The ship vertical was when it was mostly men and one woman. the Kemetic Triangle the vertical line represent Ausar. Horizontal represent Auset. After the doctor solve the problem and it was time for the aliens to go it made another alignment. A diagonal which represents Heru. Thats when it dissipate.
 
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Oh oh so how does that bring world peace though that's what I had trouble understanding, why would the general just be like oh let me stop being fakkit because some random person called me up and told me some obscure stuff. And besides, a general answering an unsolicited American telephone call when he was cut off from the world? And why would they react in that way? Cutoff each other world power when they at that moment supposedly have a common enemy, the alien? Also, I cannot imagine a world where a shyt ton of people knowing the future can bring world peace, humans are exploitive in their very nature. I dunno it was a cool concept but it had a lot of plot holes and overall shallowness. You can freely traverse the 4th dimension but the whole highlight of that was knowing that your life will turn out shytty in the end? That's the curse of having a heroine.


What she told the general was his wife's dying words so I'm guessing he stopped the attack because who else would know what how wife said to him

He wasn't cut off from the world the countries were just not talking to each other



Movie was good better than the usual shoot shoot humanity wins crap

Bit gosh I hate how they portray the military at times in these movies
 

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th-th-thecoli.com

Seen too many of these types of the movies before, I aint wasting my time :yeshrug:

I came in just to say this, I heard all the praise about how smart this movie was and how it was what interstellar was supposed to be blah blah.. Interstellar was way better this movie wasnt smart to me. It was a lng boring lifetime sad story about a
Woman who lost her daughter but had a job as a linguist and helped during a crisis
while that may sound interesting it really was a let down to find out
that after they finally made communication the movie was over.. How fukking uneventful,
The trailer had me thinking it was going to be something else.
and this whole perception of time thing was a strech, especially for that to be the main plot point
another overrated oscar hype movie.. just cause a movie doesnt have explosions and just because it has a sad story that doesnt automatically make it A great movie
 
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