"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[RickyGQ]

donovon mitchell should have expressed his interest in coming here weeks ago. his timing is pointless and detrimental to the team.

also, even though he's nice, he aint worth what danny ainge would demand. time to move on

I think the team asked him to stay quiet as a courtesy to them and leverage. This is them leaking out that they might trade him trying to get more people in negotiations.

 

[seemorecizzy]

I think the team asked him to stay quiet as a courtesy to them and leverage. This is them leaking out that they might trade him trying to get more people in negotiations.

probably should said something before we signed another guard for 100 plus million dollars. he had his chances, we've been tampering all summer

 

[ISO]

The game has changed and is dominated by wings now. The only players you listed that can apply are Lowry and FVV who were a) both defensive stalwarts and b) both sometimes the third and 4th options next to a top… 3? player in the league at the time. They are the exception, not the rule. Donovan being our best player, while Brunson is our second best player has a ceiling with no ability to maneuver past it. We won’t have cap space to get a real star. We won’t have assets to trade for one either, (unless we get a great deal for Donny).

If you told me we could somehow have Brunson, Mitchell and KD than I’m rolling. But other than that I can wait and rock with what we got.

And the game was dominated by bigs then when some of those backcourts won

I don’t think we have any shot at a championship any time soon Knicks could be better suited chasing an era of sustained success (playoff berths, 50 win seasons, ECSF-to-ECF appearances).

The Knicks are not contending in this current NBA and are not in line to acquire any other stars that would make us a true championship contender. An era of consistency and competitiveness wouldn’t be bad for this franchise at this point.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

I would argue all RJ did was take more shots last year and that he wasn't actually any better than his sophomore year
He was arguably worse

This is his last year of any value if he chucks a bit more to get above 22PPG you know they're gonna be demanding that max extension
Denver fukked it up for everyone giving MPJ that rookie max after one decent starting season

Was if him totally or was it coaching? Or was it also the Knicks organizational philosophy?


If you use the number 2 pick on a player, he shouldn’t be the 2nd or 3rd option. The knicks draft players, but then turn around and sign veterans to take minutes away from them. Randle should’ve never been the first option on offense.

As far as Mitchell is concerned, I think with him on the team the Knicks will get to the playoffs, but as far as being a legit contender, I don’t see it. They would need another all star caliber player. Barrett is the closest they have to that and he’s only 22. I think he could develop into putting up Zach Lavine type numbers.

At the end of the day, management needs to commit to developing the players they draft because their present philosophy makes them good enough to just miss the playoffs but not bad enough to get enough ping pong balls in the lottery which is why they keep missing out on the best players in the draft.

 

[storyteller]

probably should said something before we signed another guard for 100 plus million dollars. he had his chances, we've been tampering all summer

...you're right...but I think he mighta let them know and they just knew Danny Ainge would ruin any chance at a good trade. There were rumors around the draft that the Knicks FO was hesitant to trade for him because they didn't think they'd have enough left to build around him.

 

[ISO]

Was if him totally or was it coaching? Or was it also the Knicks organizational philosophy?


If you use the number 2 pick on a player, he shouldn’t be the 2nd or 3rd option. The knicks draft players, but then turn around and sign veterans to take minutes away from them. Randle should’ve never been the first option on offense.

As far as Mitchell is concerned, I think with him on the team the Knicks will get to the playoffs, but as far as being a legit contender, I don’t see it. They would need another all star caliber player. Barrett is the closest they have to that and he’s only 22. I think he could develop into putting up Zach Lavine type numbers.

At the end of the day, management needs to commit to developing the players they draft because their present philosophy makes them good enough to just miss the playoffs but not bad enough to get enough ping pong balls in the lottery which is why they keep missing out on the best players in the draft.

Mitchell and LaVine are two of the most efficient self creators in the game.

Barrett will never be that.

Barrett wasn’t put in the best situation but he also has some fundamental flaws to his game that scouts been highlighted since back then.

 

[RickyGQ]

probably should said something before we signed another guard for 100 plus million dollars. he had his chances, we've been tampering all summer

Fair point. Murray is his dream backcourt mate too. Could saved Brunson money and went all in on them asset wise.

 

[Typical Knicks Fan]

I’m not doing any trades with Ainge.

 

[Peter Popoff]

keep dreaming bro lmao
lavine has never gave ANY indication that he wants to come to the knicks and didn't even meet with any other teams in free agency.

also da.bulls have a way better team than us

Thank you. nikkas should be comedians with that Lavine to the Knicks shyt.

 

[Glorious]

Every fan seems to agree that Randle's gotta go but the FO doesn't seem interested in moving him at all. I think Randle and Fournier are gonna have a lot of heat from the fans heading in.

 

[Serious]

A 5 guard rotation all under 6’3 and a 6’4 small forward. I’m about to go throw up my breakfast.

At least, you have the option with reddish to have a wing that’s 6’8. Blazers couldn’t even do that

 

[RickyGQ]

Listen, “we’ve always been shyt, so we might as well be slightly less shytty” is a sentiment i completely understand as a Knicks fan. I would just prefer we don’t do another Melo trade. If it’s just for contracts and picks I’m all the way down.

 

[The War Report]

Carmelo Anthony all over again if The Knicks give away a lot for Mitchell. We’re just recovering from that.

 

[GoldenGlove]

I still think Zach is a real possibility. If he asks out to a destination, can the Bulls do that much better than say, Randle, Fournier and 2 firsts?

LaVine just signed a 5 year extension, didn't even meet or entertain any other teams during his first unrestricted free agency period, and you think he's a real possibility for the Knicks?


Donovan Mitchell is literally right there available. Why in the hell you thinking about Zach LaVine in Blue and Orange?

 

[ISO]

Utah also already started a 6’1 backcourt with Conley and Mitchell