Dam even women are out here saying having children lowers they value

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honestly ever since i had my kid and i be outside pushing the stroller ive gotten more attention from women than ever before.

the difference between a man and a womem with kids is as a man u already expected to provide for your kid and u will never expect to a women to come in and be a provider. but a women single with kids is looking for somebody to take care of her and her kids.

unless you got baby mama drama then that would turn most women off
 

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Dude, you look into Pericles, there’s Aspasia marrying his friend after death.
You look into Cnut, there’s Emma of Normandy
You look into Napoleon there’s Josephine, you look into Obama there’s Ann Dunham. Washington’s wife was a wealthy heiress with a kid.

there is no scope dedicated to studying them as a collective, but they are still examples from different times in history
 

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Dude, you look into Pericles, there’s Aspasia marrying his friend after death.
You look into Cnut, there’s Emma of Normandy
You look into Napoleon there’s Josephine, you look into Obama there’s Ann Dunham. Washington’s wife was a wealthy heiress with a kid.

there is no scope dedicated to studying them as a collective, but they are still examples from different times in history
That doesn’t prove wealthy men only go for other wealthy single moms.
Those seem like more of anomalies
 

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That doesn’t prove wealthy men only go for other wealthy single moms.
Those seem like more of anomalies
That’s not what I said. I said they’re more likely to do it for pragmatic purposes because there is a gain. More likely is not an extreme measurement

also, old money wealthy is not the same as new new new money wealthy. It’s obvious I’m talking about the former
 
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This depends on a lot of factors and whether you are honest with yourself. Relationships are already difficult. Getting into relationships with other variables in play only make them more difficult. Language barriers, racial differences, cultural differences, class differences, religious differences, and children can be one of those variables.

Ive dated men with kids before but I would not wish to do so in the future. Not only baby mama drama but money issues, time and attention not being able to experience firsts together. These things are big deals with very little payoff in the end. I’m not saying they can’t be worked out. Because many do, but many more don’t. It’s important to be equally yoked in a relationship. You can’t get around it.
 

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You’re wrong. You’ve essentially just blamed the effects of poverty and disenfranchisement on those in living in poverty and disenfranchisement as if it’s 100% personal responsibility.

Young women having children they aren’t able to care for properly is and always will be a social issue rooted in systemic racism. It always has been an always will be. There is too much research on this, keep your opinions to yourself.

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nikkas love bashing single moms but I been around and I noticed that most the women with children have they shyt together meaning, own spot, own car, job or hustle that provides, and if the kid is with them they not always out doing something. On the flip side the bytches with no kids rarely have any of these things and are more likely the type to think like Justin lafagboy

You doing that thing where people get patted on the back for doing what they're supposed to do. To your point most women won't truly grip the concept of responsibility/obligation until they have children.
 

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He's not lying.. People claim women love security.. Nothing speaks security more than a man out doing random shyt with his kids.. Not giving a fck about a bytch..

Security is more than just making an income.. Its a total package, that begins with the individual..

I dont know about the women y'all date, but in my circles, the women who date men with kids either:

  1. Have limited options (age, looks), and have to settle.
  2. Or they are dating a man that is doing very well for himself.
 
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