CNN: Nancy Pelosi has told Joe Biden he cannot win and will cost the Democrats on down ballot elections

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I'm fine with newsome TBH. but they should have been ramping up his campaign years ago. NOT now.

They should literally been rolling hos shyt the day Biden got inaugurated so this yr is just a passing of the torch.

These niggS deserve an L Moving this sloppy. The main issue is how bad the damage will be the next 4 yrs
 

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I agree. They should have told Biden not to run again if they had plans for Newsome. Just typical Democratic fuggery just like when they ran Hillary Clinton.

At this point take the L and make Biden and Trump the fall guys thus the 28 candidare does not have that stench on them and gets a clean slate to be the “change” the country needs with a unifying message after 15 yrs of division
 

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Let's pray brehs .... Trump will make it bad for all of us... Project 2025 is just the beginning :francis:

Weekend at Bernie's or Kamala is 100 times better than the alternative :snoop:
Biden will lose, he is hovering around 42 percent approval as an incumbent going into an election with inflation crushing Americans, while funding Ukraine, illegals and Israel


Trump lost the last election around the same approval rating as will Biden
 

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But there are tangible things that will occur if he becomes president. I.E. the judge appointments, Clarence thomas and alito will be replaced by Trumps appointments, and those appointments will be there for a lifetime....

So if that happens, and you take actions to allow that to happen. You are severely hurting your plight. Logically.

Most of the black people that are apathetic, let's be honest, are dumb smart nikkas that aren't informed enough to even know that's going to happen. I've had those debates, they always dissappear when the judges are brought up. Will you? (Because there is no argument. I'm right)

So if you are moving pragmatically, you do anything avoid having Trump make two more judge appointments. You've seen how damaging it already has been with 6-3.
And see, that arrogant, ivory tower black Dem shyt never fails to show it's head.

I'm happy things are apparently so good for you that you don't believe the apathy of black Americans is real but you should probably meet some people outside of your circle. Have some conversations with black youth and tell me they're all smart dumb nikkas. Where are you where black folks are doing so well? Are you saying we have no reason to be apathetic?

Dems in general have enormous humility issues and don't see how they shoots themselves in the foot and run everyone away with their arrogance and dismissiveness. Y'all are supposed to be so much smarter than everyone else but here y'all are, pushing a dementia patient for the second election in a row. If the courts were as serious as you're saying they are why the desperation? Why is there an open Democrat civil war 4 months from election night? Y'all still wagging fingers and playing benevolent scholar while trying to avoid this mess the party is faced with

Again if these judges mean so much to Dems, where was all the urgency 2-5 years ago, how did they end up in this position where Biden looks all but certain to lose?
 
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Obama tells allies Biden needs to seriously consider his viability
The former president, hugely influential in the party, has told associates that Biden’s path to victory has significantly shrunk.

Michael SchererJuly 18, 2024 at 12:05 p.m. EDT

Barack Obama joins President Biden at the White House on Sept. 7, 2022, for the unveiling of the former president's portrait. (Demetrius Freeman/The Washington Post)
Former president Barack Obama has told allies in recent days that President Biden’s path to victory has greatly diminished and he thinks the president needs to seriously consider the viability of his candidacy, according to multiple people briefed on his thinking.

Obama has spoken with Biden only once since the debate, and he has been clear in his conversations with others that the future of Biden’s candidacy is a decision for the president to make. He has emphasized that his concern is protecting Biden and his legacy, and has pushed back against the idea that he alone can influence Biden’s decision-making process.

Behind the scenes, Obama has been deeply engaged in conversations about the future of Biden’s campaign, taking calls from many anxious Democrats, including former House speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and has shared his views about the president’s challenges, according to people with knowledge of the calls, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

A spokesperson for Obama declined to comment.

Obama sees his role as a sounding board and counselor to his former vice president, telling allies that he feels protective of Biden. In these conversations, Obama has said he thinks Biden has been a great president and wants to protect his accomplishments, which could be in jeopardy if Republicans control the White House and both chambers of Congress next year.

In some conversations, Obama, who has long looked to data for political insights, has told people he is concerned that the polls are moving away from Biden, that former president Donald Trump’s electoral path is expanding and that donors are abandoning the president.

Publicly, Biden and his campaign advisers have remained defiant, saying the president will not drop out of the race. On Wednesday, Biden cut short a campaign swing in Las Vegas because he tested positive for the coronavirus. He returned to Rehoboth Beach, Del., where he has a vacation home, to quarantine.

Principal deputy campaign manager Quentin Fulks said Thursday morning that Biden’s campaign was moving ahead. “He is not wavering on anything,” Fulks said. “The president has made his decision. I don’t want to be rude, but I don’t know how many more times we can answer that.”

Obama’s concerns come against the backdrop of a widening anxiety gripping the Democratic Party about Biden’s prospects and their potential impact on other candidates. Democratic donors, activists and elected officials are increasingly turning to a small group of veteran elected leaders to help guide them out of the crisis created by Biden’s bungled June 27 debate performance.

Congress’s top Democrats, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (N.Y.) and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), have both spoken directly with Biden in the past week, warning about the widely held concerns that his candidacy could hurt the chances for Democratic control of either legislative body next year.

Pelosi has taken an even more active role behind the scenes, resisting efforts by Biden to end the debate about his continued candidacy, according to people familiar with her efforts, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

Obama, perhaps the party’s most revered figure, has tried to keep a lower profile, hoping to draw on his longtime friendship with Biden, his former running mate and vice president. But Obama’s role as the leader of the party from 2008 to 2016 has made him a sounding board for concerns across the party.

Former Obama advisers who continue to comment publicly on politics, from his counselor David Axelrod to a group of more junior aides who now run the Crooked Media podcast company, are among the most vocal Democrats arguing that Biden may no longer have a path to victory.

Democrats have watched national polls shift away from Biden since the debate, and they now show the president trailing in the northern battleground states. Strategists are bracing for the possibility that Trump gets another boost out of his nominating convention, as he did in 2016 and 2020, along with a possible increase in his favorability ratings after Saturday’s assassination attempt on him.

The Post previously reported that Obama has shared concerns about Biden’s path forward after the debate and that the two presidents spoke in the days after. But in the weeks since, Obama’s concerns about Biden’s candidacy have only grown deeper, the people familiar with the matter said.

Meanwhile, some of Biden’s aides have fumed about Obama’s role in these conversations, blaming him for not keeping the party united behind Biden’s candidacy. After the debate, Obama posted a supportive message on social media for Biden.

“Bad debate nights happen,” Obama wrote. “Trust me, I know. But this election is still a choice between someone who has fought for ordinary folks his entire life and someone who only cares about himself.”

Since then, Obama has largely been silent publicly. But Biden aides say Obama could have stopped Academy Award-winning actor George Clooney, a close friend of the former president, from writing an op-ed in the New York Times that called on Biden to drop out of the presidential race.

Movie mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg, a top Biden campaign official, sought to stop Clooney, a longtime friend of his, from publishing the piece but was unsuccessful, according to a person familiar with his outreach.
 

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I get it. I understand why the donors don't want Biden. I understand why the political elites in the Democratic Party have followed suit, because they need those donor dollars to keep coming in. I just think that it is bullshyt to wait to 10 weeks before the election to pull this crap. They should have primaried Biden or told him not to run again. That was the way to handle it.

Here is the kicker. They don't have one unified candidate to replace Biden. They clearly want Gavin Newsom at the top of the ticket, but Kamala Harris is not just going to accept that shyt and she can't be his running mate because they are from the same State, so that points to Wes Moore.

Who is "they"?

Biden is the leader of the party. There's nobody in the DNC that can make him drop out or that could've forced him not to run fo reelection. They're pressuring him because of the debate and his poll numbers, but there's not some kind of shadow council that can decide if Biden runs again or not. You aren't assigning enough responsibility to Biden himself IMO.
 

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because biden lied. he told us he would be a "transitional president", i.e. he wouldnt run for a second term, and we would have another primary in 2024

even if he beats trump, i've lost all respect for him. he totally fukked the party, and he is NOT fit to be president again
that office is addicting man. You gotta have an exit strategy
 

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They wanted Gavin Newsome, but Biden fugged that up by running again. So they are hoping that Harris steps down with Joe Biden, which is why I am saying that they don't have one unifying candidate. I think that they want to go Newsome and Moore, but Kamala is probably the fall back.
also the problem is, the dems have a FANTASTIC deep bench, but no one wants to blow it on 2024 because they’re gearing up for 2028 regardless.
 

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because biden lied. he told us he would be a "transitional president", i.e. he wouldnt run for a second term, and we would have another primary in 2024

even if he beats trump, i've lost all respect for him. he totally fukked the party, and he is NOT fit to be president again
Blame the party. From Day 1, everyone should have been aligned on Biden being a one-term President. Look at the rethugs. They got young candidates up and down the assembly line. Dems fell ASLEEP.
 
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