Before the movies, you could argue that Ironman was less popular than Hulk, Wolverine, Daredevil, Thor, and Captain America. And yet Ironman movies make far more money than any of those franchises. Why? RDJ.
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Besides comic book readers, who actually gave a fukk about Iron Man 10 years ago?
Marvel should be grateful towards RDJ for turning a B-level superhero into a household name and a billion dollar movie franchise.
I'm saying. If you would've told me back in the day that an "Avengers" movie would make a billy and that "Ironman" would be a lucrative franchise I would've
because the obvious choice would've been X-Men.Fred.
You don't, but the vast majority of people do. You think Marvel is seeing all those reviews, dating back to the first movie, talking about RDJ made the movies, he's Tony Stark, they can't imagine anybody else as him....you seriously think they're reading that shyt like"who cares about RDJ?".
Fred.
I don't get it. He fits the role well, but it's not something that anyone else couldn't have pulled off. I'm serious.
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
Finally a voice of reason.
If Marvel could get by on character recognition alone RDJ wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But he got Marvel likebecause they know he's Iron Man.
Fred.
What is he supposed to say in the public spotlight? "RDJ is sonning us at the negotiation table and Iron Man will fail without him?".
You know who wasn't important? Terrence Howard and Edward Norton. And they are gone. The shyt didn't get negotiated for weeks on end.
Fred.
Negotiating ploy. If Feige was right RDJ wouldn't be asking for 80 million to do Ironman 4. Let's say if Nolan and Bale agreed to do another Dark Knight movie. You think Bale could get away asking for even 50 million to play Batman again? Hell no.
Malik
Superstar
I'm saying. If you would've told me back in the day that an "Avengers" movie would make a billy and that "Ironman" would be a lucrative franchise I would've
Fred.
I would've laughed you out the barbershop. A movie about Iron Man will make $700 million in its first week.......
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
What does RDJ add to the character that wasn't already there? seriously, name me ONE thing that Robert Downey Jr has done with that character that hadn't been done YEARS before.
Also what big box office smash hit did RDJ star in before Iron Man?
Malik
Superstar
He was born to play that shyt.
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
Oh and another thing on this point.......That part in particular is bullshyt.
WELL before Iron Man had gone into production Marvel had made Iron Man one of the premier characters in their universe. He was hardly a minor character before the Iron Man movies.
It's like musicians you can't ask a star to go backwards in pay once they are selling out stadiums . You can't tell Johnny depp to go back and take scale like 21 jump street days now . That's how Hollywood works , rdj im movies alone can fund marvel studios
and he got Sherlock Holmes to fall back on
That doesn't matter one fukking bit. All that matters is that in the consciousness of the average movie goer, RDJ IS Ironman. There are no substitutes. Any replacement will cost Marvel tens of millions of dollars. If there were any suitable replacements, RDJ wouldn't be raking Marvel over the coals like this.
The closest example to this I can think of is if Disney tried recasting Jack Sparrow. Can't be done.
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
Actually it does, because you're saying the only reason the movie made that kind of bank or got any attention is because of RDJ's Star Power. He had NEVER been a part of a movie that big before.
The Jack Sparrow comparison doesn't match because Depp actually put a LOT into bringing that character to life and it wasn't a character that had been around for decades and already had a degree of public awareness.
And you still haven't answered my question, what did RDJ add to the character of Tony Stark that wasn't already there?
If you want to say he played the role perfectly, fine, but lets not act like he completely reinvented the character.
TheDarceKnight
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Besides comic book readers, who actually gave a fukk about Iron Man 10 years ago?
Marvel should be grateful towards RDJ for turning a B-level superhero into a household name and a billion dollar movie franchise.
This is the truth. Iron Man was never a tier-1 character or comic book. The movie was awesome and RDJ made that franchise in the eyes of the average moviegoer. Marvel knows that too, even if they want to act otherwise.
I never said anything about RDJ's star power. It's the charm and endless wit that RDJ brings to the role. He's like Bruce Wayne without the constant brooding.