Chris Hemsworth & Scarlett Johansson may not return for Avengers II

[Mic-Nificent]

I think the Cap suit looks so bad also in part because Evans doesn't really fill out the suit. Not saying he's a bytch or anything, but Cap should be more muscle bound. Like how dude in the new Superman movie looks.

That's because once filming of Captain America: The First Avenger ended Evans immediately dropped the weight he put on. Evans complained throughout the filming that he didn't like adding so much bulk to his frame. That's why he looks so much smaller as Cap.

 

[phillycavsfan]

As others have already said, the movie had been in development for a while. Even with the first Iron Man movie RDJ wasn't the first person cast. Terrance Howard was the first person to sign on for the film.

And Iron Man did have his own animated series, and multiple appearances in other cartoon series, various appearances in video games, and lots of merchandise.

You keep saying "If he was such a fascinating character" as if RDJ completely reinvented the character when that's just not the case. Everything RDJ has done with the Tony Stark character had been done in the comics for decades.

Comics didn't churn out a billion dollars in revenue. The movies did. And Downey Jr. has a lot to do with that.

Most people never read the comics or saw the TV show. TV show wasn't popular at all. It didn't even last 30 episodes.

 

[duncanthetall]

Comics didn't churn out a billion dollars in revenue. The movies did. And Downey Jr. has a lot to do with that.

No shyt. He played the main character. But, once again, nothing remarkable about the performance. Didn't add anything to Stark. But whatever. RDJ is a genius and single handed my saved Marvel. Yayyyy

 

[phillycavsfan]

No shyt. He played the main character. But, once again, nothing remarkable about the performance. Didn't add anything to Stark. But whatever. RDJ is a genius and single handed my saved Marvel. Yayyyy

He's the star of a billion dollar movie franchise that most people had never heard of beforehand. That's all that matters. He doesn't have to add anything to a character most people had never heard of.

 

[duncanthetall]

He's the star of a billion dollar movie franchise that most people had never heard of beforehand. That's all that matters.

Sam Worthington was the star of Avatar, some shyt that didn't exist before him. We gonna give that bum all the credit too for the highest grossing movie of all fukking time? C'mon son.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Sam Worthington was the star of Avatar, some shyt that didn't exist before him. We gonna give that bum all the credit too for the highest grossing movie of all fukking time? C'mon son.

What was the name of Sam Worthington's character in Avatar? I bet you that most people don't remember. Worthington is definitely replaceable. He's like Shia Leboeuf in Transformers. The real star and highlight of Avatar is the planet Pandora.

Look, you can go on and on about you weren't impressed with RDJ. Most people love him as Tony Stark, and that's why he's got the leverage right now to clean out Marvel.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Sam Worthington was the star of Avatar, some shyt that didn't exist before him. We gonna give that bum all the credit too for the highest grossing movie of all fukking time? C'mon son.

Especially when there's no evidence of them being a huge box office draw before then.

That's what's hilarious about that particular part of the argument. People want to give RDJ sole credit for Iron Man being a box office success, but the moment you point out that he wasn't bringing in audiences like that before "That doesn't matter, it has nothing to do with what we're talking about".

 

[Stone]

Sam Worthington was the star of Avatar, some shyt that didn't exist before him. We gonna give that bum all the credit too for the highest grossing movie of all fukking time? C'mon son.

Not sure why you can't understand this.

Listen, RDJ literally IS Tony Stark, like he was born to play the role.

Out of all the people who've played superheroes who has nailed the role like he has?

Name an actor who'd destroy the role like he did.

It's not about giving him all the credit, it's about giving credit where it's due. The man was the biggest factor in why the Avengers was the highest selling movie of all time.

Before Iron Man the Avengers were the B-team in Marvel behind the X Men.

 

[Bigbigguy]

If Tony Stark was such a fascinating, popular character there should've been a movie made before this trilogy, or at least a popular animated series.

The trilogy was done by another studio and he has had animated shows and shyt

 

[phillycavsfan]

Especially when there's no evidence of them being a huge box office draw before then.

That's what's hilarious about that particular part of the argument. People want to give RDJ sole credit for Iron Man being a box office success, but the moment you point out that he wasn't bringing in audiences like that before "That doesn't matter, it has nothing to do with what we're talking about".

Johnny Depp wasn't a box office draw before Pirates. He was an actor who starred in many indie and mid-budget mainstream films. His only 100 million dollar movie was Donnie Brasco. It doesn't matter, dude. All people know about is that Depp was born to play Jack Sparrow, and Downey Jr. was born to play Tony Stark.

 

[phillycavsfan]

The trilogy was done by another studio and he has had animated shows and shyt

None of these have banked a tenth of the revenue as the Ironman movies. Nobody cares about the Ironman animated series. It was on for 2 years and didn't even get to 30 episodes before getting cancelled.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Not sure why you can't understand this.

Listen, RDJ literally IS Tony Stark, like he was born to play the role.

Out of all the people who've played superheroes who has nailed the role like he has?

Name an actor who'd destroy the role like he did.

It's not about giving him all the credit, it's about giving credit where it's due. The man was the biggest factor in why the Avengers was the highest selling movie of all time.

Before Iron Man the Avengers were the B-team in Marvel behind the X Men.

Now they weren't, just because yall say this shyt don't make it true. Marvel had purposefully been pushing the Avengers hard before the first Iron Man film even went into production. They did this huge relaunch of the line and added Spider-man and Wolverine to the team. Since then The Avengers have been Marvel's franchise.

shyt is just as stupid as saying "Iron Man wasn't a big deal in Marvel until the movie" when well before the movie was even made they had that character as the focal point of the comic line.

NOBODY is in here saying Iron Man isn't more popular now than he was before the movie, but some of yall are full of shyt trying to act like Iron Man was this ultra obscure character that NOBODY knew about and hadn't played a significant role in the comics.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Now they weren't, just because yall say this shyt don't make it true. Marvel had purposefully been pushing the Avengers hard before the first Iron Man film even went into production. They did this huge relaunch of the line and added Spider-man and Wolverine to the team. Since then The Avengers have been Marvel's franchise.

shyt is just as stupid as saying "Iron Man wasn't a big deal in Marvel until the movie" when well before the movie was even made they had that character as the focal point of the comic line.

NOBODY is in here saying Iron Man isn't more popular now than he was before the movie, but some of yall are full of shyt trying to act like Iron Man was this ultra obscure character that NOBODY knew about and hadn't played a significant role in the comics.

Nobody's saying Ironman's obscure. But he wasn't on the level of Spiderman, the X-Men, Hulk, or even Captain America. And Avengers was always that other Marvel superhero supergroup.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Johnny Depp wasn't a box office draw before Pirates. He was an actor who starred in many indie and mid-budget mainstream films. His only 100 million dollar movie was Donnie Brasco. It doesn't matter, dude. All people know about is that Depp was born to play Jack Sparrow, and Downey Jr. was born to play Tony Stark.

The Johnny Depp comparison doesn't hold water because Depp actually DEVELOPED the Jack Sparrow character on his own. He added all those quirks and mannerisms to that character. The character didn't even exist until that film series.

RDJ didn't add anything to the Tony Stark character. All those quirks and Mannerism seen with the character was already there. Tony Stark/Iron Man has been around since the early 60's.

 

[phillycavsfan]

The Johnny Depp comparison doesn't hold water because Depp actually DEVELOPED the Jack Sparrow character on his own. He added all those quirks and mannerisms to that character. The character didn't even exist until that film series.

RDJ didn't add anything to the Tony Stark character. All those quirks and Mannerism seen with the character was already there. Tony Stark/Iron Man has been around since the early 60's.

...when people didn't pay a billion dollars to see Ironman.