When do we admit there's a problem on both ends? NEVER.
I say never is because reading throughout this thread combined with years I've been surfing through this social media/internet shyt, I've seen the same CLICHED statements (it's like we're repeating ourselves) from black men and women on this particular topic and it's at the point these conversations about this IR shyt is all but pointless.
Which is why I said that these conversations are really unhealthy mentally to black people, everybody gonna say "we must talk it out" but for what tho??
When it's the same ole same ole cliched reactions & comments (hell even the shyt you said is tired out and cliched) like ain't nobody really trying to get down to bottom of this situation, everybody just wanna vent and then go about their business until the next time and repeat the same ole shyt. It's pointless and a big waste of time.
This... I'm starting to see exactly what your saying. These threads are always the longest, but productive conversations rarely take place. Just a lot of finger pointing, defensiveness, biases, and juelzing going on. I feel like these threads just need to be banned from now on. They're pointless and divisive.