CHINA YOUTUBE THREAD: Riding China's FASTEST Bullet Train from Shanghai to Beijing 🇨🇳 ….its OVER for the United States

Nkrumah Was Right

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Can you? Even the AP says there is no camps


It's interesting. China's response to terrorism, according to the Associated Press, questioned and detained 1 million people.

America's response to terrorism killed 2 million people and displaced 20 million people across the Middle East. Also led to the Yazidi Genocide, the rise of ISIS, and the strengthening of Iran in Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon.
 

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It's interesting. China's response to terrorism, according to the Associated Press, questioned and detained 1 million people.

America's response to terrorism killed 2 million people and displaced 20 million people across the Middle East. Also led to the Yazidi Genocide, the rise of ISIS, and the strengthening of Iran in Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon.
You don't understand, that was civilized white people slaughtering Muslim savages so it's not that bad. The white man is never as savage as his enemies.
 

Sir Richard Spirit

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America holds 2 million African-Americans in prison due to the prison-industrial complex. There's tons of empirical research into what America has done to Black people since Nixon.

Racial Discrimination in the United States



It's fairly interesting to claim that China holds 6 million people as "slaves". Especially considering that most China detractors purport that, at most, China held 2 million Uighurs in detention.

I’m not debating that America is more moral.


Can you? Even the AP says there is no camps


What does the article say? There are no camps, or the camps on a government sponsored tour, appear to be closed?
 

Nkrumah Was Right

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I’m not debating that America is more moral.

I raised skepticism about the claim that China holds 6 million Uighurs as "slaves".

You said "Wow!"

That's your contribution to this discussion thus far. My provision of the US analogy is that I can offer evidence regarding America's mass detention of African Americans. Do you have anything of the sort for China - especially in the 6 million range?
 

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When I went to Europe and experienced their rail system first hand, it's clear we don't give a shyt in the US for our citizens.
I experienced the same thing when I went to Japan. Want to experience Europe especially Paris and the Netherlands.

The auto lobby has done a number on this country. I joke but it's not a joke. The only thing Robert Moses might have hated more than black people was trains.
 

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I raised skepticism about the claim that China holds 6 million Uighurs as "slaves".

You said "Wow!"

That's your contribution to this discussion thus far. My provision of the US analogy is that I can offer evidence regarding America's mass detention of African Americans. Do you have anything of the sort for China - especially in the 6 million range?

“professional vocational training institutions” is what the Chinese government called it themselves. A mixture of camps and boarding schools.

I don’t even know what we’re debating?:gucci:
 

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Ah, I forgot!

White man good. Chinaman bad.

:ehh:
This has been true since Yakub created them
I’m not debating that America is more moral.




What does the article say? There are no camps, or the camps on a government sponsored tour, appear to be closed?
Yeah they don't have evidence for camps, it's written in a wayfor people like you to still say China bad while saying they don't have camps
 

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I experienced the same thing when I went to Japan. Want to experience Europe especially Paris and the Netherlands.

The auto lobby has done a number on this country. I joke but it's not a joke. The only thing Robert Moses might have hated more than black people was trains.
I proposed to the wife at the Love Lock Bridge. Trust me Paris is over rated. Not fun thinking everyone trying to scam and Rob you. They also legit rude In general.
 

TheFryingDutchman

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german ICE high-speed train interior

:hubie:


I've been on a bunch of ICE trains in Germany and they're nice. They don't go as fast as a bullet train, but they can get up to 150-200 kmh. Though they were having all types of delays last time I was there. DB got to get that shyt in order.
 

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Can you? Even the AP says there is no camps

I can

Xinjiang leak reveals extent of Chinese abuses in Uighur camps


A leak of thousands of photographs reveals more details about the internment of Uighurs, but China calls it ‘lies’.


A leak of thousands of photos and official documents from Xinjiang has shed new light on the extent of alleged abuses against the Uighurs and other Muslim minorities in China’s far western region.

The files, obtained by US-based academic Adrian Zenz, were published as UN human rights chief Michelle Bachelet began a long-awaited and controversial trip to Xinjiang where Beijing is accused of “crimes against humanity” for its treatment of the Uighurs.

Activists have said Chinese authorities have detained at least one million Uighurs and other mostly Muslim minorities in a network of detention camps and prisons in the region, which Beijing has defended as vocational skills training centres necessary to tackle “extremism”.

But the trove of police photographs and internal documents – sent to Zenz by an anonymous source who hacked into official databases in Xinjiang – adds to evidence that the mass internments are far from voluntary, with leaked documents showing top leaders in Beijing, including President Xi Jinping, calling for a forceful crackdown.

“This is by far the most important leak of evidence from the region and the largest and the most significant,” Zenz told Al Jazeera. “It’s much more significant than anything we’ve seen before because it contains evidence on so many levels.”

Until now, only a few officials associated with Xinjiang have been subjected to US sanctions, but Zenz says the trove of files directly implicates Xi and China’s central government in the crackdown in the region.





Or we can talk about how China is actively destroying 1,000 year old Islamic culture in the region


China has renamed hundreds of Uyghur villages and towns, say human rights groups
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Report finds that religious, historical and cultural references have been removed in crackdown by Beijing



Hundreds of Uyghur villages and towns have been renamed by Chinese authorities to remove religious or cultural references, with many replaced by names reflecting Communist party ideology, a report has found.

Research published on Wednesday by Human Rights Watch and the Norway-based organisation Uyghur Hjelp documents about 630 communities that have been renamed in this way by the government, mostly during the height of a crackdown on Uyghurs that several governments and human rights bodies have called a genocide.



Or we can talk about how Han Chinese are ethnically replacing the native inhabitants who have been there since before the concept of China was even a though process

China tests new ethnic assimilation policy on Uyghurs

The measure aims to further replace Uyghur culture with that of Han Chinese, experts say.


By Gulchehra Hoja for RFA Uyghur
2024.01.26

Chinese President Xi Jinping poses with a group of Kyrgyz performers in Urumqi, capital of northwest China's Xinjiang region, July 13, 2022.
Xie Huanchi/Xinhua via AP
Northwest China’s Xinjiang region is the first area to implement a government policy promoting integration among ethnic groups to achieve President Xi Jinping’s goal of establishing a unified national identity, Chinese media reported.

The regulation calls for the creation of mixed housing, themed venues and cultural parks, and sports and cultural activities that highlight characteristics of Chinese culture and promote zhonghua minzu — a single Chinese nationality that transcends ethnic divisions.

The policy has raised concern among China watchers and scholars, who say its goal is to further erase the cultural identity of Uyghurs and other Turkic peoples and subsume them into the dominant Han Chinese culture.

The measure, known as the “Regulation for Promoting Interaction, Communication, and Integration Between Ethnic Groups,” went into effect on Jan. 1 in the Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture, a nearly 270,000-square-kilometer (104,000-square-mile) multiethnic area that borders Kazakhstan, Mongolia and Russia, according to a Jan. 16 report by China’s People's Daily.

A mix of Han Chinese, Kazakhs, Uyghurs, Kyrgyz and other ethnicities live there.

Ili is serving as a test for the policy before the Chinese government rolls it out in other parts of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, experts say.

‘Ethnic genocide’

The policy implemented in the prefecture’s capital Ghulja “aims to dismantle the Uyghur mentality, submerging them within the Chinese population and ultimately eradicating their existence,” said Ilshat Hassan Kokbore, vice chairman of the executive committee of the World Uyghur Congress.

“It serves as a continuation of ethnic genocide, systematically dismantling Uyghur culture through this approach,” he said. “I fear that similar measures will soon be applied in Kashgar, Aksu, Kucha, Korla and numerous other locations.”

Adrian Zenz, director of China Studies at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in Washington, said the regulation aims to “formalize a policy of assimilation and population dilution” for national security reasons.

“Many of the outlined regulations are not entirely new, but they formalize a policy of assimilation and population dilution, which makes this new initiative very significant,” said Zenz who has spent years documenting China’s human rights abuses against Uyghurs and has written about Beijing’s measures to dilute the ethnic Uyghur population in Xinjiang.

 

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I've been on a bunch of ICE trains in Germany and they're nice.

i see. i am in germany now and was on an ICE train on monday.

They don't go as fast as a bullet train, but they can get up to 150-200 kmh.

:mjlol::camby:

that depends on the line. on the fast lines they can hit 300 - 330 km/h. like between frankfurt and cologne.

200km in just over an hour. including a stop or two.

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www.bahn.de

"ICE 3 trains have a maximum speed of 300 km/h (186 mph) in Germany, 320 km/h (200 mph) when travelling on the French high-speed rail lines. Class 403 are theoretically permitted to go up to a maximum speed of 330 km/h (210 mph) when travelling on the high-speed route between Frankfurt and Cologne.[4]"


Though they were having all types of delays last time I was there. DB got to get that shyt in order.

the german trains look higher quality than the chinese ones.

leather seats :hubie:
 

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Do you chinaphiles and Pooh glazers ever sit back and wonder/ask how they achieved all these technical “marvels” and innovation?
 
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