China's new CR450 - Fastest Bullet Train in the World with 450 km/h Top Speed

[WIA20XX]

have you been to a U.S airport? we even got cameras on buses and subway trains in major cities.

It's nothing compared to China.

Their state security apparatus is second to none.

It's how they're able to maintain control over 1.3B people.

 

[Problematic Pat]

What's not mentioned here is the VAST SURVEILLANCE STATE that makes boarding a train in China the same as boarding an airplane there as well.

No need to do population control at the train station, when it's done all over the country.

What kind of surveillance do they do that's not already happening in western nations??? In the 21st century you are being recorded every single time you leave your home by multiple devices and majority of people have no clue it's happening. Europes CCTV alone is the definition of a surveillance state. America you have FBI, local city and state police watching you as well as the NSA recording your phone conversations and web traffick. This is all before bringing up flock cameras and PRISIM

 

[WIA20XX]

What kind of surveillance do they do that's not already happening in western nations??? In the 21st century you are being recorded every single time you leave your home by multiple devices and majority of people have no clue it's happening. Europes CCTV alone is the definition of a surveillance state. America you have FBI, local city and state police watching you as well as the NSA recording your phone conversations and web traffick. This is all before bringing up flock cameras and PRISIM

Off rip, they have 200 Million CCTV cameras, which is 4x the amount of the US.

It's not the tech, it's the comprehensive integration from all areas.

The CCTV is integrated with

• Phone Data - content and movement
• DNA Databases
• Voice Prints
• Facial Recognition
• iris databatases

Not just from criminals, terrorists, suspected criminals and suspected terrorists but from regular citizens.

All of this data is being collected and analyzed by a central government. Not local authorities, not regional authorities, not states, not random federal agencies - but the central government. The right hand does know what the left hand is doing.

The US has this type of tech, of course

• It doesn't have the same amount
• It's not all in the same place (even with Palantir and them boys pushing the US in that direction)
• It doesn't have the same government coordination. FBI doesn't work with the NSA, the DIA, The CIA, DEA, ATF and all the other bajillion military, intelligence, and law enforcement agencies. They all have their little fiefdoms, and there's plenty of overlap and plenty of disagreement.
• On the side of the people - There are nominal safeguards like "the bill of rights" that Constitutional Lawyers, Criminal Defense Lawyers, etc can take advantage of

It doesn't mean that the US Feds don't get away with murder, but it's much smaller than the scale and organization that China is working at.

In essence, their government has a lot of forced cooperation, not much room for disagreement from the population or from the power structure itself.

Those things matter.

Meanwhile, folks yapping about the deep state over here, and US Attorneys are quitting before they can get fired to hamstring the incoming regime.

• Secret Service Agents can't get over time. Gotta train at Tyler Perry's facility.
• Some random can take a shot at 45
• Defense Contractors stay pulling a fast one on the defense department.

When Americans centralize all that stuff - those investigations have to go through lots of bureaucratic hurdles - and there are consequences for ignoring rights - because people in this country have rights. Even if the rights are paper thin, the feds have to make some effort.

Not China.

So when you have that level and coordination in your surveillance state - looking at everyone not just high value targets - you can have 20 minute boardings for high speed rail.

China is the 2nd largest arms manufacturer in the world - yet if any of them crash out - it's with knives.

The US doesn't have that type of control over its people, its land, its goods.

The citizens don't have rights that can be enforced against the government in china - it's why they can build so big and so fast.

Cali coulda been done built their HSR. Same with TX and the Northeast Corridor - but private citizens, land owners, private railroads - they all have rights. And getting everybody on the same page is damn near impossible.

Folks really not trying to see how authoritarian governments work.

 

[papa pimp]

He literally just showed you how they stole most of their technology and their issues but we need to just believe you

It's nothing compared to China.

Their state security apparatus is second to none.

It's how they're able to maintain control over 1.3B people.

there are around 10 or so paid chinese/russia propaganda accounts on here.

once you recognize their posting patterns, its best to not even respond to them after you call out the disinformation.

 

[Mike_Pipeson]

So again, by stealing tech, having more derailments in 20 years than Japan had in over 50 years, and because they have the fastest trains(which other countries have shied away from due to safety concerns), they lead everyone.

Gotcha

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Yeah Chinese companies have come along way in terms of manufacturing quality. Xiaomi, Huawei, Oppo, etc make some nice electronics at super low prices. It's a shame the US government tried to hard to keep certain Chinese products out of the country...that added competition would be great for consumers.

Don’t forget black myth wukong

 

[Problematic Pat]

1 IOff rip, they have 200 Million CCTV cameras, which is 4x the amount of the US.

It's not the tech, it's the comprehensive integration from all areas.

The CCTV is integrated with

• Phone Data - content and movement
• DNA Databases
• Voice Prints
• Facial Recognition
• iris databatases

Not just from criminals, terrorists, suspected criminals and suspected terrorists but from regular citizens.

All of this data is being collected and analyzed by a central government. Not local authorities, not regional authorities, not states, not random federal agencies - but the central government. The right hand does know what the left hand is doing.

The US has this type of tech, of course

• It doesn't have the same amount
• It's not all in the same place (even with Palantir and them boys pushing the US in that direction)
• It doesn't have the same government coordination. FBI doesn't work with the NSA, the DIA, The CIA, DEA, ATF and all the other bajillion military, intelligence, and law enforcement agencies. They all have their little fiefdoms, and there's plenty of overlap and plenty of disagreement.
• On the side of the people - There are nominal safeguards like "the bill of rights" that Constitutional Lawyers, Criminal Defense Lawyers, etc can take advantage of

It doesn't mean that the US Feds don't get away with murder, but it's much smaller than the scale and organization that China is working at.

In essence, their government has a lot of forced cooperation, not much room for disagreement from the population or from the power structure itself.

Those things matter.

Meanwhile, folks yapping about the deep state over here, and US Attorneys are quitting before they can get fired to hamstring the incoming regime.

• Secret Service Agents can't get over time. Gotta train at Tyler Perry's facility.
• Some random can take a shot at 45
• Defense Contractors stay pulling a fast one on the defense department.

When Americans centralize all that stuff - those investigations have to go through lots of bureaucratic hurdles - and there are consequences for ignoring rights - because people in this country have rights. Even if the rights are paper thin, the feds have to make some effort.

Not China.

So when you have that level and coordination in your surveillance state - looking at everyone not just high value targets - you can have 20 minute boardings for high speed rail.

China is the 2nd largest arms manufacturer in the world - yet if any of them crash out - it's with knives.

The US doesn't have that type of control over its people, its land, its goods.

The citizens don't have rights that can be enforced against the government in china - it's why they can build so big and so fast.

Cali coulda been done built their HSR. Same with TX and the Northeast Corridor - but private citizens, land owners, private railroads - they all have rights. And getting everybody on the same page is damn near impossible.

Folks really not trying to see how authoritarian governments work.

Everything about China is from people who have no first hand experience with anything they are saying. America has all types of laws to protect people and local, state and federal government still find ways to circumvent those laws. America can be extremely draconian when it comes to dealing with the general public. The laws are all a facade. R.Kelly is in prison because a law that was created to deal with the highly entrenched organized criminal under world was applied to in an unscrupulous manner. You can beat a case that's being tried by the state and the feds come around and charge you with the exact same thing but call it a federal offense. Citizens are protected from being tried for the same crime twice (Double jeopardy) if they were previously found not guilty but look how easy that protection got bushed. shyt so insane they can charge you for something you haven't even done
but they can fabricate a narrative that you will do it someday (Conspiracy). Law enforcement can steal your money and force you to hire a lawyer to prove that you got it legally and it's not being used for nefarious reasons (Asset forfeiture). They even break people's will by freezing their accounts preventing them from hiring lawyers to defend them against whatever charges the FBI cooks up forcing them to take plea deals on a case that had no real evidence but the threat of decades behind bars over lack of proper legal representation causes many to fold. Reasonable expectation of privacy which is a constitutional right gets abused on a daily bases. The laws are ment to make us feel good while they get easily circumvented all the time. The government can put you on a watch list without committing a crime causing you to get go through hell everytime you reenter the country. They don't even have to tell you why they did it.

 

[Problematic Pat]

So again, by stealing tech, having more derailments in 20 years than Japan had in over 50 years, and because they have the fastest trains(which other countries have shied away from due to safety concerns), they lead everyone.

Gotcha

So you just saying anything then?? Gotcha

 

[Mike_Pipeson]

So you just saying anything then?? Gotcha

That's exactly what you did
You literally said they lead the world when they don't