China debuts 281mph bullet train while the united states still using shyt our ancestors built.

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stop lying and deflecting

As of February 2024, the estimated cost of the California High-Speed Rail (HSR) project is between $89 billion and $128 billion. This cost includes allowances for future inflation. The project's total cost has increased significantly from its original estimate of $33 billion.

take accountability for terribly-run blue areas, or stop bytching :camby: a 33 billion to 128 billion cost overrun? are you fukkin serious?
It's almost like the cost of goods and services have increased since early 2010s preplanning :ohhh:
 

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stop lying and deflecting

As of February 2024, the estimated cost of the California High-Speed Rail (HSR) project is between $89 billion and $128 billion. This cost includes allowances for future inflation. The project's total cost has increased significantly from its original estimate of $33 billion.

take accountability for terribly-run blue areas, or stop bytching :camby: a 33 billion to 128 billion cost overrun? are you fukkin serious?

Ketamine Elon is part of the reason it never got off the ground, cause he convinced enough people that his ideas (vacuum tubes/underground tunnels) would be the future.

Dude has spent 15 years preaching that his re-imagined things that already exist are the future and to give him money....and that they'll be ready next year.

The Vegas to LA line is going to be the real barrier for any other major region outside the Northeast getting HSR in America.
 

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and other people don't want to outlay hundreds of billions of dollars, for slower technology than a plane, because you can't wait around for an hour :umad:

democrats want these fukkin things, and yet democrat areas can't do construction effectively, because of unions. tell california to do this on time and under cost, or keep whining

^^ These the crackers that will guarantee China beats the U.S.

Every dollar the governments spends is a dollar taken out of his pocket to give to “those” people. :mjpls:
 

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^^ These the crackers that will guarantee China beats the U.S.

Every dollar the governments spends is a dollar taken out of his pocket to give to “those” people. :mjpls:
:russell: embarrassing. another shill who can't hold dems accountable :mjlol:

here's more evidence, you can keep posting smilies

The California High-Speed Rail (CHSRA) project has experienced significant cost overruns and delays, and is now considered one of the country's most troubled "megaprojects":
Cost overruns
The project's cost has risen to $128 billion, which is nearly 22% higher than the previous estimate of $105 billion. This is far more than the $33 billion that voters approved in 2008.
Funding gap
The CHSRA Peer Review Group estimates that there is a funding gap of $92.6 billion to $103.1 billion between the estimated costs and known funding for the entire San Francisco-to-San Diego system.
There is no set timeline for when the entire 494-mile stretch from Anaheim to San Francisco will be completed. The current focus is on the 171-mile line from Merced to Bakersfield, which officials estimate will be finished between 2030 and 2033.
A New York Times expose in 2022 revealed how political decisions resulted in the ballooning cost of the project.

 

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^^ These the crackers that will guarantee China beats the U.S.

Every dollar the governments spends is a dollar taken out of his pocket to give to “those” people. :mjpls:
Like his ancestors, If it was about putting highways through the hood with no exit/entrance for people there thay cracka would be for it :mjpls:
 

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The main reason i want it isn't to replace flying. If i'm traveling somewhere for a vacation a plane will always be the most efficient method of transport.
But i feel like high speed trains would ideally enable longer and faster work commutes. Traveling at 300 mph mean you could live in Cleveland and work in NYC everyday. Only an 1 hour and a half commute. I've had drives take that much time to go only 30 miles simply because of traffic was so congested.

Why would anyone live in Cleveland on purpose? :gag:

Acela already has allowed people to work in NYC, and live in Philadelphia/Baltimore or swap out any major East Coast City from DC to Boston.

What people don't realize is that because of outside the NE corridor, electrified systems wouldn't be ideal because of how far some of these trains would have to travel across the midwest where there is legitimately nothing.
 

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https://www.reddit.com/r/fukkcars/comments/1gu9q2p/comment/lxwvqr0/

The US has a generally derogatory view towards reliance on, use of, and spending for public transit. The attitude is that Americans drive, and spending on highways or strip malls is American. Using public transit is seen as for the poor, socialist, lacking freedom, and un-American.

Also, the US car-centric identity and view/philosophy on infrastructure are not aligned with such projects. In China, a high speed rail does not need to generate profit via ticket sales to be aggressively pushed through and delivered. They just have to link the country so tertiary benefits (i.e.: new job opportunities for people living far, save time, save energy since driving long distances is a job itself, etc.) can be generated to reduce and remove externalities (i.e.: remove mobility barriers to opportunities, reduce emissions, accidents, time loss from traffic, etc.)

In the US however, it is very difficult to consider investing money (see in a derogatory light as "budgeting") into something that will not create profit. The sentiment is "we are saving some money for the underprivileged people who cannot afford cars."

China's system for government is often immediately dismissed and discredited as a dictatorship. Whether true or not, this viewpoint prevents a realistic understanding of China's system as a "rule by science." They treat development as a science and without the kind of seesaw battling on elections, policies, and negative attitude on public transit, and can develop high-speed rail and infrastructure primarily as a science to address problems of pollution and mobility. The entire HSR system there is systematized.

This is simply not possible in the US, even if that's what people want.

Your first mistake is assuming that transportation is for the benefit of the people. It isn't. They'd rather make it as inconvenient as possible so that they can charge you more money.

Basically.

It benefits the people more than the government, so why do it?

“Why should YOU get to work in a diverse choice of cities, have more convenience and workers’ flexibility???? Don’t you know this is America?!?! You’re here to build MY money. Why should YOU be able to get over on MY company?”

That’s America right now and definitely America under Elon and Vivek.
 
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