China debuts 281mph bullet train while the united states still using shyt our ancestors built.

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we still in the 19th century when it comes to trains. shyt is embarrassing. We really need to pass some sort legislation to eliminate lobbists influence on politics. because i don't believe the left or the right has a problem with modern transportation tech. Its just the politicians try to keep the oil, auto, and other industries lobbies happy. Big business woud rather us buy cars and tires, than ride trains.
Musk really needs to be bullwhipped through the streets for the reason he pushed the hyperloop trash.

Actively setting out to make the world a worse place because he's an edgelord with too much money.
 

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Japan and South Korea are much smaller countries with a collectivist mindset and homogenous populations. Not applicable to the US.

Western European countries are much smaller than the US. I can't comment on Brazil.

I would love for there to be more high-speed rail (HSR) in the US, but it could only be in denser, more populated corridors of the country, not nationwide. Also, Americans LOVE cars and generally speaking have an individualist mindset. HSR is not a priority for most Americans.
Honestly, its because Americans have lack imagination for better and accept slop.

If they told us we could create a continental highway system to connect the country in the early 1930s, your same excuses woulda been said.
 

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We honestly don’t have the manpower and our current foundation doesn’t provide for much flexibility without some serious downtime.

It’s honestly that simple.

People underestimate how enormous and complex something like that is. We got 1/5 the population and manpower of China and some crazy terrain that’s already surrounded by infrastructure to manage.

I’m looking at the 5 freeway from Downey to East LA and this shyt took nearly 10 years to add a whole other lane and they couldn’t even extend it because there’s no room. Same goes for the 91 freeway into the Inland Empire, shyt took like 20 years to add a decent, working, partial express lane. The difficulty is that buildings, houses and roads were already pressed up next to the freeway. Building extra lanes is difficult because there’s no room to add it.

It’s tough to move existing infrastructure in place to install new stuff. China has an advantage in that they don’t have a bunch of older, critical legacy systems they need to keep intact so they don’t have a bunch of constraints standing in their way. We can’t simply knock things down and rebuild it on spot because a lot of people are using what we’d be knocking down and that’s a big vacuum in the meantime.

Like look at the bridge that collapsed in Baltimore. Pretty sure there not being a bridge there is hindering a lot of shyt. Well, trying to shut shyt down in order to build something new on top of it would be the same thing as it’ll be unusable during construction.

We have a lot of shyt in this country that wasn’t built in modular fashion so it’s difficult to swap in and out for a new system efficiently. China has been building modularity for awhile now because that’s simply a newer and improved way to do things. When your main systems are built with newer practices, it’ll be much easier to improve and scale.
 
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Japan and South Korea are much smaller countries with a collectivist mindset and homogenous populations. Not applicable to the US.

Western European countries are much smaller than the US. I can't comment on Brazil.

I would love for there to be more high-speed rail (HSR) in the US, but it could only be in denser, more populated corridors of the country, not nationwide. Also, Americans LOVE cars and generally speaking have an individualist mindset. HSR is not a priority for most Americans.
All I’m hearing is excuses. This country use to fukking mobilize and do great feats when it was inspired to. America is an empty husk of a country. Its citizens are poorly educated, malnourished, misinformed, uninspired, over worked, violent, mentally unstable, greedy, apathetic. You name it.
 

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Honestly, its because Americans have lack imagination for better and accept slop.

If they told us we could create a continental highway system to connect the country in the early 1930s, your same excuses woulda been said.
True but also remember that the primary purpose of creating the interstate highway was for the military (especially after WWII).
 

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All I’m hearing is excuses. This country use to fukking mobilize and do great feats when it was inspired to. America is an empty husk of a country. Its citizens are poorly educated, malnourished, misinformed, uninspired, over worked, violent, mentally unstable, greedy, apathetic. You name it.
I don't disagree :hubie:
 

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Not saying a train to every little 1 street light town. We mean along major corridors or regions to major cities.

Hard to visualize without a map, so this image here if implemented like China with some form of high speed rail would do wonders for this country. Notice too it touches major cities in Canada and Mexico closest to the border.
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I will admit a lot of new infrastructure would possibly have to be built, like the route between Houston and Dallas is using brand new tracks and ROW.
You could create a DC to Boston line to get riders between those two end points in 2 hours. We just won't do it.

An Charlotte to Atlanta to New Orleans line could work too.

Americans simply don't have the imagination for something like this. We say it costs too much yet are willing to dump billions to maintain our roads which are crumbling.
 

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This has move to do with collectivist vs individualistic societies.

We like taking road trips with our families and not cooped up with strangers, even if it would cut our travel time significantly.

Thats a human trait. That causes and provoke a lot of violent incidents.

Plus America land mass is just too large for most public transportation to work effectively. Try to build something like that in North Dakota or Iowa or Montana in the middle of nowhere states where residential areas are isolated.
 

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I never understand why leftists are utterly obsessed with trains and railroads.

Cost effectiveness, time and unimpeded space make air travel the superior mode of travel. This shyt was figured out by the middle of the 20th century.

Let China build trains to nowhere.
Taking trains through Europe was nice as hell. I wouldn't mind having that to visit other states
 
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