China debuts 281mph bullet train while the united states still using shyt our ancestors built.

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10,000 km:

Length of high-speed rail in China when Xi Jinping became the President (in 2013)

42,000+ km — Today

And it was 0 km in 2007!

A decade in China is like a century in other countries.

Those who don’t understand the “Speed of China,” are doomed to failure.



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Imagine the size and scope of this transformation, its mind blowing.

A country using its wealth to do something constructive.



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Infrastructures build civilizations and create jobs.
This is THE most important metric to establish healthy/progressive societies...




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They are simply going through what we went through almost a century ago with the establishment and building of National highways.

The difference is that now technology exists to build these fast ass trains whereas when we established our highways, it did not.
 

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Youre both right, you look at NY and see how people act on those trains play a big part on how people perceive public transit.
They don't act as wild on DC trains.

THe truth tho, America stopped funding the NY trains. Having it look like garbage probably leads to people being even more garbage on it.
 

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It has a lot to do with it. Minimal public demand for it coupled with an already robust interstate highway system that suits our car-driving desires just fine.

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Not saying a train to every little 1 street light town. We mean along major corridors or regions to major cities.

Hard to visualize without a map, so this image here if implemented like China with some form of high speed rail would do wonders for this country. Notice too it touches major cities in Canada and Mexico closest to the border.
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I will admit a lot of new infrastructure would possibly have to be built, like the route between Houston and Dallas is using brand new tracks and ROW.
 

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Politicians would probably go with it but the states that’s beholden to the auto industry and big oil would probably demand money for road projects thereby making the bullet train funding obsolete.
 

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Japan, South Korea, Western European Democracies and even Brazil have better public transportation infrastructure than the US. :wtf:
Japan and South Korea are much smaller countries with a collectivist mindset and homogenous populations. Not applicable to the US.

Western European countries are much smaller than the US. I can't comment on Brazil.

I would love for there to be more high-speed rail (HSR) in the US, but it could only be in denser, more populated corridors of the country, not nationwide. Also, Americans LOVE cars and generally speaking have an individualist mindset. HSR is not a priority for most Americans.
 

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This has move to do with collectivist vs individualistic societies.

We like taking road trips with our families and not cooped up with strangers, even if it would cut our travel time significantly.

Um, airplanes?
 

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Massive infrastructure projects are a space in with dictatorships excell because there is no back n forth bickering of politicians n opposition. The glory goes to the government and society not a politician.

It is the one place where democracies suffer. There need to be a way to systematically nullify the delaying and opposing of vital developments just because you don't want the other side to take credit. In other countries people will spend time and money actually blocking developments working against the society for selfish interests and motivations

Also China's year to year growth is almost entirely around infrastructure so its incentivized to build build build even if theres no demand and people's only way to invest in retirement is to put money in speculative infrastructure (which might have no demand) which is how you get ghost cities, abandoned belt and road projects, and the property Evergrande crisis.
 

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Japan and South Korea are much smaller countries with a collectivist mindset and homogenous populations. Not applicable to the US.

Western European countries are much smaller than the US. I can't comment on Brazil.

I would love for there to be more high-speed rail (HSR) in the US, but it could only be in denser, more populated corridors of the country, not nationwide. Also, Americans LOVE cars and generally speaking have an individualist mindset. HSR is not a priority for most Americans.
100 years ago, people needed bell boys on elevators because they didn't believe something could actually, safely carry them up multiple floors.

40 years ago americans fought to be able to drive without a seatbelt and drink as well

20 years ago americans thought marriage between two men was an abomination to god

americans can, and do change their mindset. it is changed through policy making and political will. we can't resign ourselves to the status quo because it is the status quo. we're the same country that invented the internet and aviation as an industry. if we wanted to we can connect the country from sea to sea
 
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