China debuts 281mph bullet train while the united states still using shyt our ancestors built.

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1. Environmental Impact


  • Lower Carbon Emissions:
    • Trains produce significantly fewer greenhouse gas emissions per passenger-mile compared to airplanes, especially electric trains powered by renewable energy.
    • High-speed rail systems, for example, emit up to 90% less CO₂ than short-haul flights.
  • Energy Efficiency:
    • Trains are more energy-efficient, using less fuel per passenger or ton of freight compared to airplanes.



2. Accessibility and Convenience


  • Urban Connectivity:
    • LRT systems are integrated into city infrastructure, making them ideal for short-distance travel and commuting within metropolitan areas.
    • Train stations are often centrally located, unlike airports, which are usually on the outskirts of cities, requiring additional travel.
  • Simpler Boarding Process:
    • Trains generally have shorter check-in and boarding times compared to the lengthy security checks and procedures at airports.



3. Cost-Effectiveness


  • Affordable Fares:
    • Train and LRT tickets are often more affordable than plane tickets, especially for short- to medium-distance travel.
    • Reduced baggage fees and no hidden charges make trains more economical.
  • Infrastructure Costs:
    • Maintaining train tracks and stations is often less expensive than the upkeep of airports and aviation facilities.



4. Comfort and Flexibility


  • Spacious Seating and Amenities:
    • Trains typically offer more legroom, larger seats, and the ability to move around freely during the journey.
    • Many trains also have dining cars, restrooms, and scenic views.
  • No Weather Delays:
    • Trains are less likely to face delays due to weather conditions compared to airplanes, which can be grounded by storms or fog.



5. Safety


  • Lower Accident Risk:
    • Train travel has historically been safer than air travel, with fewer accidents and fatalities per passenger-mile.



6. Economic and Social Benefits


  • Regional Development:
    • Rail systems encourage economic growth by improving connectivity between cities and towns, fostering regional development.
    • LRT systems reduce urban congestion and promote more sustainable urban planning.
  • Job Creation:
    • Building and maintaining rail infrastructure creates jobs and stimulates local economies.



7. Better for Short- and Medium-Distance Travel


  • Time Efficiency:
    • For short- and medium-distance routes (e.g., under 500 miles), trains are often faster when considering total travel time (including airport check-in and security).
    • High-speed trains, like those in Europe or Japan, can rival the speed of airplanes over such distances.



fukk all that, I’m not trying to sit next to dudes jacking off on some cross-country rail line.

shyt will just magnify all off the grossness of US local public transportation.

This shyt works in more civilized countries…not here.
 

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Nah dude. He’s right. You used to be a god pro Black poster. Now I wonder if you’re even black. I donated every time you made those threads. Now you’re just a shill pushing right wing talking points. I used to have those dates in my office and I had people in my office donate as well.
 

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Nah dude. He’s right. You used to be a god pro Black poster. Now I wonder if you’re even black. I donated every time you made those threads. Now you’re just a shill pushing right wing talking points. I used to have those dates in my office and I had people in my office donate as well.
Show examples and tell me how I'm pushing right-wing talking points. Then reconcile how I can be what you're saying I am but still run donation threads for pro black charities/organizations.
 

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1. Environmental Impact


  • Lower Carbon Emissions:
    • Trains produce significantly fewer greenhouse gas emissions per passenger-mile compared to airplanes, especially electric trains powered by renewable energy.
    • High-speed rail systems, for example, emit up to 90% less CO₂ than short-haul flights.
  • Energy Efficiency:
    • Trains are more energy-efficient, using less fuel per passenger or ton of freight compared to airplanes.



2. Accessibility and Convenience


  • Urban Connectivity:
    • LRT systems are integrated into city infrastructure, making them ideal for short-distance travel and commuting within metropolitan areas.
    • Train stations are often centrally located, unlike airports, which are usually on the outskirts of cities, requiring additional travel.
  • Simpler Boarding Process:
    • Trains generally have shorter check-in and boarding times compared to the lengthy security checks and procedures at airports.



3. Cost-Effectiveness


  • Affordable Fares:
    • Train and LRT tickets are often more affordable than plane tickets, especially for short- to medium-distance travel.
    • Reduced baggage fees and no hidden charges make trains more economical.
  • Infrastructure Costs:
    • Maintaining train tracks and stations is often less expensive than the upkeep of airports and aviation facilities.



4. Comfort and Flexibility


  • Spacious Seating and Amenities:
    • Trains typically offer more legroom, larger seats, and the ability to move around freely during the journey.
    • Many trains also have dining cars, restrooms, and scenic views.
  • No Weather Delays:
    • Trains are less likely to face delays due to weather conditions compared to airplanes, which can be grounded by storms or fog.



5. Safety


  • Lower Accident Risk:
    • Train travel has historically been safer than air travel, with fewer accidents and fatalities per passenger-mile.



6. Economic and Social Benefits


  • Regional Development:
    • Rail systems encourage economic growth by improving connectivity between cities and towns, fostering regional development.
    • LRT systems reduce urban congestion and promote more sustainable urban planning.
  • Job Creation:
    • Building and maintaining rail infrastructure creates jobs and stimulates local economies.



7. Better for Short- and Medium-Distance Travel


  • Time Efficiency:
    • For short- and medium-distance routes (e.g., under 500 miles), trains are often faster when considering total travel time (including airport check-in and security).
    • High-speed trains, like those in Europe or Japan, can rival the speed of airplanes over such distances.




1. Tearing up rural areas and knocking down trees and razing meadows to lay rail doesn't seem that environmentally friendly to me

2. Outside of the Northeastern United States, this doesn't exist in the United States

3. Debatable - Cheapest Amtrak ticket from Atlanta to Nashville is around 100 dollars but it'll take 16 hours to get there. Cheapest Spirit Ticket is around 75 dollars with an hour flight time.

4. I'll concede that point and say that train travel is more comfortable and not prone to the weather like flying is

5. Train accidents/incidents in 2023 in US - 4,845, Flight accidents/incidents in 2023 in US - 1,020

6. Lack of rail in my metro US area hasn't stopped urban sprawl in US suburbs and exurbs from my point of view.

7. See point 3 - 16 hour train ride to Nashville from Atlanta vs 4 hour car ride to Nashville to Atlanta vs 1 hour flight - Nashville to Atlanta
 

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That's what I thought. Happy new year

1. Tearing up rural areas and knocking down trees and razing meadows to lay rail doesn't seem that environmentally friendly to me
All of these projects have off-setting conditions. Part of getting regulatory approvals before execution.
2. Outside of the Northeastern United States, this doesn't exist in the United States
Yet. That's the whole point. These projects not just create hundreds of thousands of jobs, they connect the whole country.
3. Debatable - Cheapest Amtrak ticket from Atlanta to Nashville is around 100 dollars but it'll take 16 hours to get there. Cheapest Spirit Ticket is around 75 dollars with an hour flight time.
Brother, I'm not debating anyone on this. I'll take 16 hours on Amtrak over a Spirit Airlines ticket 8 days of the week.
4. I'll concede that point and say that train travel is more comfortable and not prone to the weather like flying is
aight
5. Train accidents/incidents in 2023 in US - 4,845, Flight accidents/incidents in 2023 in US - 1,020
most train incidents involve minor derailments or collisions at crossings, while aviation accidents tend to involve more catastrophic consequences when they occur.
6. Lack of rail in my metro US area hasn't stopped urban sprawl in US suburbs and exurbs from my point of view.
look at western europe. creating walkable communities and shrinking distance between metro and sub urban areas go hand in hand with city planning. these rail networks are icing on a cake we shouldve baked a long time ago
7. See point 3 - 16 hour train ride to Nashville from Atlanta vs 4 hour car ride to Nashville to Atlanta vs 1 hour flight - Nashville to Atlanta
fukk spirit and frontier :manny:
 

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This has move to do with collectivist vs individualistic societies.

We like taking road trips with our families and not cooped up with strangers, even if it would cut our travel time significantly.

CAP

AMTRAK HAD 33 MILLION
PASSENGERS LAST YEAR
ON THEIR SLOW ASS TRAINS

:devil:
:evil:
 

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Massive infrastructure projects are a space in with dictatorships excell because there is no back n forth bickering of politicians n opposition. The glory goes to the government and society not a politician.

It is the one place where democracies suffer. There need to be a way to systematically nullify the delaying and opposing of vital developments just because you don't want the other side to take credit. In other countries people will spend time and money actually blocking developments working against the society for selfish interests and motivations
Japan, South Korea, Western European Democracies and even Brazil have better public transportation infrastructure than the US. :wtf:
 

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I never understand why leftists are utterly obsessed with trains and railroads.

Cost effectiveness, time and unimpeded space make air travel the superior mode of travel. This shyt was figured out by the middle of the 20th century.

Let China build trains to nowhere.

if that was the case why do airlines and the automobile industry spend millions every year lobbying against it? why do european airlines cut routes because of fewer customers due to passengers opting for train travel instead?







 

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I never understand why leftists are utterly obsessed with trains and railroads.

Cost effectiveness, time and unimpeded space make air travel the superior mode of travel. This shyt was figured out by the middle of the 20th century.

Let China build trains to nowhere.
everything you wrote here is wrong :wow:
 

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Nah doesn't have anything to do with that, we are behind in infrastructure general

Airports, bridges, internet trains subways tunnels etc

Youre both right, you look at NY and see how people act on those trains play a big part on how people perceive public transit.
 
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