Can i get a quick refresher on why TLR is MAGA all of a sudden?

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It's the same thing. Idealistically it isn't but truthfully? Realistically? It's war and not choosing a side that can actually fight is the same as enbolding the enemy.

Plain and simple.

Idealism never won a war yet. It's lost more than a few.

Truthfully, realistically, mindlessly voting without asking for anything to address our specific needs hasn't won us anything material from either party, either.

There is no historical correlation between us voting and a meaningful narrowing of the racial wealth gap. Hence, not voting unless we actually get something beneficial for us can't make things materially worse than it already is. We vote mindlessly and we're still trending towards 0 wealth.

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Clear example here. Hit dogs are quick to holler.:russ:

:lolbron:

@dj-method-x is another one. Oh I can name names. :stopitslime: hit dogs holler though.:yeshrug:
Go ahead and support this post with evidence

Let's ban bet that you cant pull up a single post of mine that is "right wing"

Unless you're too p*ssy to stand by your words :francis:
 

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How is socialism going to happen?

How does socialism help black ppl? I’m always dumbfounded on why black people want to depend more on a nation in which 99% of the time they fukk over black ppl specifically. How does that make any sense?
i should have worded my post better. i dont think socialism is a substitute for black politics. socialism separately is a net positive for most people living here because the benefits of society are no longer completely means tested, require individual payment, or revoked for some infraction. black issues need black solutions outside of socialism, but black people suffering from generic issues would be helped. but to your question of how it could be good for black folk, social security and medicare are socialist programs that black poeple use. really no downside to them from a racial angle, breh. we might as well stop bullshytting and really go all in cuz capitalism is a massive fraud that has literally turned black bodies into wealth for white people
 

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So what do you call the prison reform bill?Is that not wiggle room? That’s clearly proof that republicans and democrats can work together to solve an issue hurting poor blacks. Democrats didn’t do it when they had full control. It took Trump.

That’s at least a leather back seat in the back of a Cadillac right?! :heh:

It didn't "take Trump". :mjlol:

Very few people outside of the Black community and hard-left liberals were talking about prison reform in 2009. Obama DID push though a partial correction of the crack cocaine sentencing disparity and pardoned a record number of people, but the major reform movement wasn't there when he came into office and it had no chance of passing among moderate dems or republicans.

The prison reform wave didn't go mainstream until around 2012. At that point Holder and Obama both pushed it and much stronger prison reform and sentencing bills were put forth by Democrats repeatedly. But Republican leadership refused to sign.

When Trump came into office, Democrats continued to put forth serious prison reform legislation with some libertarian (Rand Paul) and a little bit of other Republican support. But AG Jeff Sessions was one of the hardest anti-reform a$$hole AG's in history and Trump doesn't actually give a shyt about that stuff (remember the Central Park 5?) so it didn't go anywhere at first. But as the movement grew, some Republicans signaled that they would support a much weaker version of the bill. Trump's son-in-law was a big supporter of the cause and in his ear, so Trump finally said that he'd support the weaker bill, and so Republican leadership let it through.

That's how it went down. That weak-ass reform bill would have happened under ANY president at this point in history. The problem was that the centrist support for even that didn't come around until the last five years.
 

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And if you got in a car accident or an undetected life threatening disease that no doctor can predict? Was it their fault that they got sent to the ER? :stopitslime:

I'm all for alternative solutions, but conservatives think in absolutes, which isnt the case for most people in life.

If that was the case you would come out better under a payment plan that would probably be less than what the average person pays in insurance, and they also wouldn't have years of payments wasted so they would probably have more cash on hand.

You leftists always try to use doom and gloom and the worst possible scenario to justify your parasitic world views.
 

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We got brehs
  • going on about how men cant be men/war on men (the phrase that converted redpill to maga and started this nonsense on the internet in the first place)
  • Going off on feminists/lgbt/etc. Even in unrelated cases and seeing them as a primary enemy. I wouldn't be surprised if "sjw" became a common phrase
  • Stanning Ann Coulter (MAGA supporter who endorses conservative flag)
  • Stanning policies which help billionaires and work against the everyday black person while at the same time not caring for economics in general
  • Promoting division within race
  • Shytting on all black ppl in politics from every party
  • Slowly starting to cape for Trump
Did people forget those MAGA people are blatantly anti black?

I'm not even a political poster at all but i can see something is up. This cant be normal right? :dahell:
They've clearly infiltrated the hip hop/urban community. Those Russians know the white MAGA followers aren't going anywhere so their next step is to turn the colored folks into MAGA believers. If they get us then it's another 4 year presidency for Donald. They know how gullible colored folk are:yeshrug: I could be totally wrong but I'm probably not far off:patrice
 

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Remember them bots?

They are here
I really do feel like this site is getting overrun by bots or something. So many threads that are tribal in nature and want to steer opinions. I’m at a point where I am about to start putting these people on ignore.

2020 election is right around the corner but it ain't just Russian bots stirring up shyt. There are multiple agendas pulling divide and conquer tactics out this joint. A perfect example of this is the #WalkAway movement that conveniently popped up a few months before the 2018 primaries.
 

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"we not as bad as they are" responses to shame and stop Black folks from questioning/demanding more from a party that historically gets the majority of their vote? ...familiar tactic used not too long ago:mjgrin:

All of this is solved if we abandon identity politics, only be loyal to seeking and spreading truths
If you can't give credit for truths without feeling the need to indirectly discredit the source...then it was never about that truth and solving a problem, it was all about you

Keep lying to yourself thinking that shytting on Chrisette Michele but supporting 21 savage, is a way to fight for Black folks
Keep selectively using stats like high incarceration rates, against certain politicians and downplay/discredit efforts to address those stats by certain politicians

How are black folks using identity politics? And if we did why is that a bad thing.

America has been built on white identity politics (policies that benefits whites and whites only).

I think the Corporate Democrats use ID Politics but in the worst way = having diversity but no systemic changes/supporting the shytty status quo (ex HRC and Kamala Harris).

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The democratic party is weak rite now and they have indeed taken the black vote for granted

But I'd be DAMED if I'm voting for a party that enables and coddled white supremacists. You better off just simply not voting or supporting an independent party.
 

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It didn't "take Trump". :mjlol:

Very few people outside of the Black community and hard-left liberals were talking about prison reform in 2009. Obama DID push though a partial correction of the crack cocaine sentencing disparity and pardoned a record number of people, but the major reform movement wasn't there when he came into office and it had no chance of passing among moderate dems or republicans.

The prison reform wave didn't go mainstream until around 2012. At that point Holder and Obama both pushed it and much stronger prison reform and sentencing bills were put forth by Democrats repeatedly. But Republican leadership refused to sign.

When Trump came into office, Democrats continued to put forth serious prison reform legislation with some libertarian (Rand Paul) and a little bit of other Republican support. But AG Jeff Sessions was one of the hardest anti-reform a$$hole AG's in history and Trump doesn't actually give a shyt about that stuff (remember the Central Park 5?) so it didn't go anywhere at first. But as the movement grew, some Republicans signaled that they would support a much weaker version of the bill. Trump's son-in-law was a big supporter of the cause and in his ear, so Trump finally said that he'd support the weaker bill, and so Republican leadership let it through.

That's how it went down. That weak-ass reform bill would have happened under ANY president at this point in history. The problem was that the centrist support for even that didn't come around until the last five years.

You need to stay here and ether these fraud ass posters. A lot of them are CACs.
 

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The democratic party is weak rite now and they have indeed taken the black vote for granted

But I'd be DAMED if I'm voting for a party that enables and coddled white supremacists. You better off just simply not voting or supporting an independent party.

but this is where you cats get confused, nobody is saying VOTE TRUMP/REPUBLICAN...nobody. not tariq, yvette, antonio, NOBODY

this is some shyt that you cats automatically ASSUME because you've been indoctrinated by the 2 party system

ironically, a very intelligent sista was on the breakfast club that's an independent and worked on Bernies campaign - find one "c00n" thing she says in this interview:

 
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