Boxing fans...Why do some of you guys hate MMA so much and love to discredit it?

[Master Teacher]

I'ma put this shyt to rest for good.

James Tony came to MMA to fight Randy in his sport at his rules.
Randy would not dare step into a boxing ring with Tony, he might die.

Ray Mercer KO effortlessly Tim Silvia a Former Champion way younger than Ray Mercer, in a MMA match with MMA rules.

Can any MMA fighter step into the boxing ring and fight against a world class boxer

NO!

Boxing is far more technical sport, its more than just throwing punches, its about angles, foot work, and bunch of other shyt

 

[bsmooth]

 

[Carlos Huerta]

manny pac 4 >>>>any ufc fight this decade

there are no big fights any more. That sport is dead.

 

[Master Teacher]

there are no big fights any more. That sport is dead.

man are you fukking kidding me. Chael Sonnen is the biggest draw in UFC .

He fighting Jon Jones, because they ain't got no either names for him to fight.
fukking Chael is on a losing strike, moving up in weight like he being dominating his division and getting a title shot, all for the hell of it.

shyt is like WWE, it's like an episode of raw when Stone Cold comes out challenges tripple H for the title, and it goes down later that night.

Come on man. MMA doesn't even have a proper ranking system.
it's whoever Vince McMahon, I mean Dana white wants to fight.

GSP the suppose biggest star, is boring and unimpressive, rarely fights, which is why he's held the belt for so long.

 

[Dr. Fauci]

my head fukkin hurts when people try to pull the "boxing is soooo much more technical than mma"


yes, heavy weight fights can be sloppy. When u have 265 lb guys wearing 4 ounce gloves, some weird shyt can happen in the cage/ring. and if uve ever done any sort of grappling in ure life, u quickly find out thats the most tiring aspect of the sport....u get some sloppy fights with those big guys. Notice tho, that today the heavyweight division is extremely technical/better fighters...and its just going to keep growing and getting better


George St Pierre's "technical" ability in MMA in all the different disciplines> then an elite boxer at their craft

not saying St. Pierre is a better boxer than an "elite boxer" but his "technical ability" of mastering all the different forms of fighting is greater than a boxer mastering just one art



and yes there are bad/not very technical mma fighters, just as there are not very technical boxers. But when u talk elite status (Anderson, George St Pierre, BJ penn in his prime), ill take that all day with the combination of boxing, kickboxing/muythai, wrestling, BJJ, judo that these guys need a very high level of knowledge of

 

[Ronnie Lott]

No, boxing is more technical than MMA. Boxing has got to be one of the hardest sports in the world. Brawlers like JDS (yes he's a brawler) would never ever become champion in boxing and definitely you would never see a past his prime, football washout like Lesnar win a world title in three fights. You can bring up his amateur wrestling credentials as proof of his experience but remember that almost every decent boxer has lengthy amateur boxing credentials before they go pro.

Anderson Silva's striking is really not much compared to the best Muay Thai fighters in the world. He wins because everyone else in MMA severely lacks stand up ability and he's also trained in grappling and pure MMA disciplines. He's a good striker, don't get me wrong, but the best MMA fighters are mostly jacks of all trades masters of none with one particular discipline they're better in than others.

The best boxers are by far the best at boxing. They may not be well rounded as martial artists but trust that Mayweather is way better at boxing than say GSP is at anything he does combined. GSP would get killed in any Mundial competition, any world class wrestling competition and any world championship level boxing or kickboxing match. Take into consideration that most MMA guys are only alright in one or two (for example Muay Thai and BJJ or boxing and wrestling) and the GSP's are pretty rare even today. MMA is a decent mix (hence Mixed Martial Arts) of all of those disciplines but few guys are the best at what they do. Even the guys that are tend to be BJJ fighters and BJJ is seriously not an elite competition in the grand scheme of things (WAY smaller and WAY less athletic talent pool than boxing). Only a handful of Olympic wrestlers have ever competed MMA (majority didn't even take it seriously or go full time) and you have K-1 kickboxing champs like Alistair Overeem and Melvin Manhoef (not a champ but he's close to that level) getting knocked out cold by brawlers. That happens maybe 99.9% of the time in boxing because the skill/talent level at the very top is so ridiculously ahead of the the guys at the middle or the bottom.

A guy like Jon Gatti is considered a sloppy slugger in boxing but he'd be looked at as a "technical genius" in MMA or K-1.

U have to take into account all the skills that have to be developed to be a good MMA fighter compared to just boxing. MMA, u have to worry about takedowns, grappling, knees, kicks, submissions spinning backfists etc. U don't have to worry about any of that in boxing. And most boxers would get their azz whooped if they went over to MMA

 

[sfgiants]

Your missing the point, it's not about who can win a fight, that's up for grabs.
Ray Mercer destroyed Tim Silvia who was a CHAMPION just as easily as randy sonned tony's fat ass.

I'm saying boxing just looks better and its better executed period .
It's more entertaining to watch, that's why they make way more money.

The fact they train all that shyt, don't mean they're efficient at that shyt.

I'm watching Vitor fight Anthony Johnson, that shyt looked like a lockeroom brawl in High School

Boxing is about artistry. It's a science to it. The way it is designed as a sport, is more entertaining than MMA.

Only using your hand takes more technical skill, than being able to do another things, when you have more options, you don't have to be as proficient.

that's what I mean by more technical, boxing matches seem more controlled aggression, MMA is pretty wild and unorthodox at times

there's only a hand full for complete mix martial artist period,

boxing being more entertaining than mma is subjective. but strikes alone vs people getting stomped, body slammed and choked out

second, you're acting as if every single professional boxing match is some amazing display of artistry where the audience leaves shocked and awed at the flawless displays of technical boxing. they aren't. see: pacquiao vs joshua clottey.
or klitschko vs ibragimov, winky wright vs bhop. wheres the "artistry" in these fights? pacquiao was bored to tears and frustrated at clottey's "artistry"


i dont see why dudes gota sht on one sport to hype up another. i watch both. i just dont see the unnecessary smug attitude some boxing fans have towards MMA, like they got some stake in boxings success or something

 

[sfgiants]

U have to take into account all the skills that have to be developed to be a good MMA fighter compared to just boxing. MMA, u have to worry about takedowns, grappling, knees, kicks, submissions spinning backfists etc. U don't have to worry about any of that in boxing. And most boxers would get their azz whooped if they went over to MMA

the greatest pound for pound boxer alive right now would get bodied by jose aldo

does that mean mma is the "superior sport"... no, it just means jose aldo does more than just work on his striking.

that's why u had the gracies sonning boxers, karate/muay thai/judo black belts. sht is not just about striking. u take these wiggers to the ground and they're like a fish out of water. choke them out in a matter of seconds n rob them blind.


and bas rutten put together easily the goat self defense video ever created

 

[Master Teacher]

boxing being more entertaining than mma is subjective. but strikes alone vs people getting stomped, body slammed and choked out

second, you're acting as if every single professional boxing match is some amazing display of artistry where the audience leaves shocked and awed at the flawless displays of technical boxing. they aren't. see: pacquiao vs joshua clottey.
or klitschko vs ibragimov, winky wright vs bhop. wheres the "artistry" in these fights? pacquiao was bored to tears and frustrated at clottey's "artistry"


i dont see why dudes gota sht on one sport to hype up another. i watch both. i just dont see the unnecessary smug attitude some boxing fans have towards MMA, like they got some stake in boxings success or something

I don't care who Pac fights, shyt is gonna be more entertaining trhan 95% of MMA bouts.

Slams are you serious, you can see that on the basketball court when two nikkaz get heated at each other.

Brett Rogers worked at sam's club before training MMA, he nearly beat Fedor who is regaded as the best ever in MMA by some. Something like that can never happen in boxing.

A boxing match is not a brawl of fight, it is a sport a science casual fans do not understand that, are appreciate the nature of the sport, if you don't get it you never will.

 

[Master Teacher]

the greatest pound for pound boxer alive right now would get bodied by jose aldo

does that mean mma is the "superior sport"... no, it just means jose aldo does more than just work on his striking.

that's why u had the gracies sonning boxers, karate/muay thai/judo black belts. sht is not just about striking. u take these wiggers to the ground and they're like a fish out of water. choke them out in a matter of seconds n rob them blind.


and bas rutten put together easily the goat self defense video ever created

Why Floyd gotta fight Aldo in an MMA watch, why can't Aldo come and Box with him, if he trains BOXING everyday, why can't Floyd fight him in a boxing match.

Aldo would look like a clown in a ring, Boxing is a sport, it would be a baseball player trying to play Hockey for Aldo

 

[sfgiants]

Why Floyd gotta fight Aldo in an MMA watch, why can't Aldo come and Box with him, if he trains BOXING everyday, why can't Floyd fight him in a boxing match.

Aldo would look like a clown in a ring, Boxing is a sport, it would be a baseball player trying to play Hockey for Aldo

"why floyd gota fight aldo in mma"



that was a hypothetical situation, mainly posted because all you mothafukkas actin like boxing is such a superior sport and MMA is so weak and sloppy that they're not real fighters and thus wouldnt stand a chance against boxers

aldo could probably beat floyd without throwing one punch, as the great gracies did to many boxers and put them to sleep without a punch being thrown

 

[Juven]

I'ma put this shyt to rest for good.

James Tony came to MMA to fight Randy in his sport at his rules.
Randy would not dare step into a boxing ring with Tony, he might die.

Ray Mercer KO effortlessly Tim Silvia a Former Champion way younger than Ray Mercer, in a MMA match with MMA rules.

Can any MMA fighter step into the boxing ring and fight against a world class boxer

NO!

Boxing is far more technical sport, its more than just throwing punches, its about angles, foot work, and bunch of other shyt

James Toney lost that fight.

Timmy Sylvia was washed up at that point and wanted a paycheck (showed up overweight) Has a boxer done anything in the UFC or any top mma organization? nope

MMA is technical. Its mostly dominated by grapplers, so you see it on the ground. Def more technical than boxing if its between 2 fighters that are good at everything.

 

[sfgiants]

I don't care who Pac fights, shyt is gonna be more entertaining trhan 95% of MMA bouts.

Slams are you serious, you can see that on the basketball court when two nikkaz get heated at each other.

Brett Rogers worked at sam's club before training MMA, he nearly beat Fedor who is regaded as the best ever in MMA by some. Something like that can never happen in boxing.

A boxing match is not a brawl of fight, it is a sport a science casual fans do not understand that, are appreciate the nature of the sport, if you don't get it you never will.

fedor was washed up by then lol @ thinkin that fight was indicative of MMA as a whole

get off your high horse, you actin like you're some bitter retired boxer mad that boxing's been dying for years and can't understand why mothafukkers like MMA. you seem legit upset right now "omg its a science most people dont get it but i get it, i am enlightened by my knowledge of the sweet science"

 

[sfgiants]

James Toney lost that fight.

Timmy Sylvia was washed up at that point and wanted a paycheck (showed up overweight) Has a boxer done anything in the UFC or any top mma organization? nope

MMA is technical. Its mostly dominated by grapplers, so you see it on the ground. Def more technical than boxing if its between 2 fighters that are good at everything.

not only did james toney lose that fight, he QUIT

getting KO'd > quitting. quitting is basically saying "you are better than i am, i quit before you continue to embarrass me any further"
at least getting ko'd you go out fighting. lol@ tapping out after talking all that sht. couture was about to put that boy to sleep

where was the sweet science when he needed it

 

[Juven]

Check the world rankings in BJJ and then check the all-time greatest rankings, then holler back at me, I'm talking strickly BJJ.

Tito Ortiz and Jon Jones are terrible wrestlers, they did excel at the sport to an elite level, but in the UFC they are hall of famers regarded for their wrestling.

Did you see the Broner fight, if you box how can you not appreciate the dazzling display, the technical destruction of human body he put on, pure class.

I'm saying MMA can't fight or are bums, I'm just saying as a sport Boxing is harder you have to be at an elite level to achieve.

It's gonna take several generations for MMA to evolve into a science like boxing.

I dont know if we will ever see the #1 bjj guy join MMA (consistenly at least). MMA is not BJJ. Not everyone wants to get punched in the face, and I doubt the #1 bjj guy (or grappler in general) wants to either. Takes a certain kind of person to enter MMA, plus I doubt a #1 guy on the planet would have any impact (MMA already has legit black belts trained by the best)

MMA is still harder than boxing. In MMA you have to learn boxing along with the other martial arts. Yea sure brock came in, but he won a couple of fights in the weakest weight class (Dana white gave him the title fight after a win). Ill catch that fight though, thanks for the tip.