Boxing fans...Why do some of you guys hate MMA so much and love to discredit it?

[Kunty McPhuck]

this is another problem im going to adress


why do boxing fans act like theres never been a boring boxin fight ever? theres TONS of boring boxing fights, in every sports you get a boring matchup..its just the way it is

MMA does have boring match ups and even the president of the UFC goes out his way to talk shyt about fighters who participate in those type of fights, he always tells them "dont leave it to the hands of the judges"...he pays fighters extra when they go out trying to kill each other not just win on points

Slow your roll breh. I said the ground fightin can be boring when nothings goin on. I also said what kind of fight people like to see as a viewer. Doesnt matter if its MMA/Boxing/Kick boxing/street fight people want to brehs KO'd and if im not wrong that generally happens when in the standup. But let me guess right you watch amateur wrestling all the time. Afterall the fight that suppose to have made UFC was Griffin/Bonner and how did that fight go again?

Knockouts get you more views on youtube and worldstar then a double leg takedown do.

 

[Malta]

as soon as brock fought someone that wasnt old and can actually strike...he got beat the fukk up and retired, he came into MMA during its infant stage...you got way more talented fighters now that you did during his era

And yea of course you got guys that dont throw punches as crisp as a boxer, because they started training MMA not boxing. Same can be said about a guy who throws sloppy kicks, a kickboxing fanatic can come in and talk about how wrong hes doing it..that doesnt mean its the whole sport in a nutshell, the shyt is a blend of all these martial arts together so of course its not going to look as a pretty as a stand alone sport like boxing or kickboxing.

And thats just some guys, you got champions/elite level fighters who are crisp in every aspect of the sport

Fam, Brock still won the title, show me just one dude in boxing that did the equivalent to what Brock did. And his "era" was like 2 years ago you making it seem like it was 1943 or something.

Like I said I enjoy MMA, it's just not as technical as boxing is IMO, and you will never see "wars" like you do in boxing because of the gloves. I can appreciate it though, you sound like you're whining about people not liking it as much as Boxing.

And It's not even a matter of being pretty, there's a lot more thinking taking place in Boxing.

 

[TheScarsOnSealsFace]

I don't hate MMA. I hate the 'wrestling' aspect of it. Amateur/Olympic wrestling is boring as fukk to me. The 'ground and pound' aspect to MMA is unappealing to me. However, I do like BJJ and Muay Thai and kickboxing. I just don't like all of those specialities, including western boxing, rolled up into one. That's where MMA just loses me.

 

[yawn]

The culture/fans of each respective sport seem to be why there's that divide. Even though the culture has changed quite a bit since the mid 2000's, a lot of boxing heads still see mma fans as "white boys in glittery affliction shirts" which just isn't the case, half your favorite athletes cross train mma for a real reason.


And the idea that a fight is simply throwing hands is short sighted nowadays.


I love and enjoy both sports, always have. .. since they both scratch that same itch and that's to see two people push themselves to the brink and who has it in them to dig down and take what's theirs





-P-

Not true. It can't be seen as a sport for the "white boys in glittery affliction shirts" when most of the champions are of color.

Many dislike MMA because of the grappling. Jackson vs Bader is common in the sport.

There are to many decisions in a sport where you can do almost anything to your opponent.

I for one miss body slams and soccer kicks and UFC puts on way too many mediocre PPV cards for my taste.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

The culture/fans of each respective sport seem to be why there's that divide. Even though the culture has changed quite a bit since the mid 2000's, a lot of boxing heads still see mma fans as "white boys in glittery affliction shirts" which just isn't the case, half your favorite athletes cross train mma for a real reason.


And the idea that a fight is simply throwing hands is short sighted nowadays.


I love and enjoy both sports, always have. .. since they both scratch that same itch and that's to see two people push themselves to the brink and who has it in them to dig down and take what's theirs





-P-

Im talkin about in general your regular fight fan. I know people who will watch boxing and mma (and they have backgrounds in kickboxing) but all they care about is the strikin part, when it comes to the ground game, to them its gay, obviously its not if you know what to look for when the fight goes to the ground.

 

[puppetmaster]

Not true. It can't be seen as a sport for the "white boys in glittery affliction shirts" when most of the champions are of color.

Many dislike MMA because of the grappling. Jackson vs Bader is common in the sport.

There are to many decisions in a sport where you can do almost anything to your opponent.

I for one miss body slams and soccer kicks and UFC puts on way too many mediocre PPV cards for my taste.

Like I stated. That's what a lot of boxing heads I personally know still think the sport is.

Grappling for the sake of stalling needs to stop being scored so favorably.

I wouldn't have a problem seeing soccer kicks replace elbows on the ground.


I don't disagree about the ppv oversaturation. There's been a lot of stinkers on both ends mma and boxing.

Im talkin about in general your regular fight fan. I know people who will watch boxing and mma (and they have backgrounds in kickboxing) but all they care about is the strikin part, when it comes to the ground game, to them its gay, obviously its not if you know what to look for when the fight goes to the ground.

I hear you. A KO is always a moment that's hard to duplicate from a submission as much as I love Jiu Jitsu


I find that funny that we can watch sports with men hugging each other and whispering sweet nothing's until the ref separates them or 300 pound men doing the jersey turnpike over a football with another mans hands between his legs running around with guys called "tight ends and wide recievers" but cats on the ground jockeying for position (which happens in street fights) is "gay"





-P-

 

[phillycavsfan]

No, boxing actually is more technical and has 100+ years behind it, sorry but when I watch MMA stuff I have to remember not to critique them like I would a boxer. I see dudes throw shytty looking punches and look completely lost when they fight southpaws too, that's part of the reason why Anderson has laid waste to so many folks. They don't do things boxers would do to take away that advantage, something as simple as getting your lead foot outside their lead foot

When someone like Brock Lesnar can come in off the street and become a champ in relatively no time, you can't talk about the technical skills matching boxing. I get it, he was a great wrestler in college, but a great golden gloves boxer that turns pro after 10+ years of not participating in the sport will get lit the fukk up against a champion.

This is correct. MMA is a young sport compared to boxing. UFC has only been around for 20 years, and really only been poppin' for 5. That's why you get people like Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey (both had extensive backgrounds in wrestling and judo respectively, BTW) winning UFC belts after less than 7 fights.

When the talent pools are deeper, and UFC improves its marketing and promoting structure, stuff like that won't happen.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Anderson Silva vs Jon Jones would be bigger than any fight that boxing could put together right now...Mayweather vs pac wouldve been on another level but pac fukked that shyt up for himself

I'll comfortably bet the house that Mayweather/Pac if it were to happen today wouldn't just outsell Jones/Silva in PPV, it will do at least DOUBLE in total revenue...

UFC's hype train has hit a wall and been on a steady decline...For the record I don't have a beef with MMA...My beef is with clowns like Joe Rogan who try to gain legitimacy for MMA by trying to shyt on boxing...I was watching MMA back when the majority of its current fans weren't even inseminated yet...A lot of yall MMA cats seem to have a hard time believing MMA and boxing have long coexisted before zuffa bought UFC and made it mainstream...

as soon as brock fought someone that wasnt old and can actually strike...he got beat the fukk up and retired, he came into MMA during its infant stage...you got way more talented fighters now that you did during his era

Once again...

See this right here is what I am talking about...Yall nikkas don't even know the history of the sport you praise...

Mainstream UFC does not equal MMA as a whole...MMA has been around a lot longer than UFC has...MMA has been publicly practiced since Bruce Lee started mixing styles in the 70's...Just because competition wasn't sanctioned and fights weren't being nationally televised like boxing doesn't mean they weren't going down...

 

[Lewis Black]

Anderson Silva vs Jon Jones would be bigger than any fight that boxing could put together right now...

You are very wrong. Not bias at all...i made this thread.

http://www.the-coli.com/coliseum/25279-pride-fc-appreciation.html

 

[MustafaSTL]

No, boxing actually is more technical and has 100+ years behind it, sorry but when I watch MMA stuff I have to remember not to critique them like I would a boxer. I see dudes throw shytty looking punches and look completely lost when they fight southpaws too, that's part of the reason why Anderson has laid waste to so many folks. They don't do things boxers would do to take away that advantage, something as simple as getting your lead foot outside their lead foot

When someone like Brock Lesnar can come in off the street and become a champ in relatively no time, you can't talk about the technical skills matching boxing. I get it, he was a great wrestler in college, but a great golden gloves boxer that turns pro after 10+ years of not participating in the sport will get lit the fukk up against a champion.

Pretty much what I have always said when it comes to MMA fans defending the skills of that sport.

 

[Master Teacher]

Boxing is more technical, because your only using your hands so you are watching expects trained for childhood doing their expertise. Everything is fluid is for the most part it's more entertaining to watch.

Jon Jones learned MMA from watching youtube, this out of his own mouth, dude could not just start doing boxing in college, and become a champ and face of the sport, its impossible.

BJJ is boring to watch a lot of times, the ground game just isn't entertaining and that turns a lot of people off. Plus UFC has fights too often and there's just not enough talent to keep with how many shows they do.

However, 50 years from now MMA will take over boxing, because you will have generations of martial artists training from birth to compete in the sport, and the fights will be a lot more fluid and entertaining to watch.

 

[ZEupTWN]

I see way more MMA nikkas come out of nowhere tryna discredit boxing more than anything

 

[Juven]

Pretty much what I have always said when it comes to MMA fans defending the skills of that sport.

brock wasnt a dominant champ. He had a couple of fluky wins, then got his ass whopped and retired. MMA takes more skill than boxing.

 

[TheNig]

I love watching boxing and for some reason i loved watching pride, but i cant get myself to enjoy UFC and i actually hate it. I really wish i could but for some reason i cant. If i knew id let you know, but lets get it straight nothing in sports fukks with Big Boxing matches

This right here. I did some BJJ for about two years and I enjoyed Pride. Dana White is the reason why I hate UFC

 

[phillycavsfan]

Boxing is more technical, because your only using your hands so you are watching expects trained for childhood doing their expertise. Everything is fluid is for the most part it's more entertaining to watch.

Jon Jones learned MMA from watching youtube, this out of his own mouth, dude could not just start doing boxing in college, and become a champ and face of the sport, its impossible.

BJJ is boring to watch a lot of times, the ground game just isn't entertaining and that turns a lot of people off. Plus UFC has fights too often and there's just not enough talent to keep with how many shows they do.

However, 50 years from now MMA will take over boxing, because you will have generations of martial artists training from birth to compete in the sport, and the fights will be a lot more fluid and entertaining to watch.

Jones learned about MMA from youtube, but he'd been wrestling since high school and was a state champion in Upstate New York.