Black woman goes IN on the black-in-tech scammers who are really just recruiters in HR, not in key roles

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Ok and if they lay off their tech team and the people who know how to maintain the applications and keep them working you know the ones generating those billions of dollars in revenue then what happens? The apps break costing billions in lost revenue and now you ve gotta hire a new tech team for even more money when you could've just paid out a couple million in payroll...
lol you don’t have to explain this to me. The game is the game though.
 

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Most computer science grads these days aren't even on the same skill level as a recent long term bootcamp grads tbh (6months - year) people are leaving camps knowing JavaScript, Python, C- and already worked with react native etc with decent projects on their hub for interviewers to see. While many computer science grads are basically stuck at data structures and old comp science and have to be interns. A few FAANG Software Devs have told me bootcamp grads are easier to work with because of the mentality above rather than cocky College Grads. I believe it.
Eh, this depends on your background. A person with no coding experience going through a comp Sci program vs someone with just a bootcamp is going to have more baseline knowledge.

But, neither one will determine if the person is a good programmer on the actual job. Programming in a classroom will not trump real world experience.
 

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Ok and if they lay off their tech team and the people who know how to maintain the applications and keep them working you know the ones generating those billions of dollars in revenue then what happens? The apps break costing billions in lost revenue and now you ve gotta hire a new tech team for even more money when you could've just paid out a couple million in payroll...
There must be some kind of accounting trick being used
I think, right now the tech sector is being heavily marketed to not just black folks but everyone as a way to make good money and the key part these people promise, fast. Like "after 2 months, you will make 200k" type of stuff.

They are capitalizing on the perception that the fast track to wealth is through the tech industry.
I'm more used to training outfits and colleges running this scam rather than individuals.
 

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Not a tech bruh, but I appreciate her insights. Additionally, and piggy-backing her overall argument, there's something weird going on in general where "everyone" is becoming a career specialist, Diversity and Inclusion expert, credit repair person, or financial advisor. I understand that you may be genuinely good at these things, but like she said, many who masquerade as experts can't go beyond topical analyses/suggestions when put to the test. SMMFH.

Similarly, this shyt makes it hard for the ones who really know what's good because a lot of these bums, especially regarding Diversity work, clog up the hiring pipelines. In reality all they have are basic training certificates, their experiences as an "XYZ" person, and a command of social justice buzzwords.
 

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lol you don’t have to explain this to me. The game is the game though.
Lol you get it. You're just saying corporate leadership will do dumb shyt no matter what to cut costs. I agree. I thought you were saying the practitioners with low experience will lower salaries overall but you're basically saying it will backfire on these companies when these people end up fukkin their money up
 

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This is why I stopped trying to get into the tech field. They're racist and unwelcoming towards black folks.
America is racist and unwelcoming towards black folks. Don't ever let someone else determine what you can, should, or will do. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, etc...

Letting some racists determine your life trajectory is more power than they deserve. Also hard =/= impossible.
 

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I dont knwo, for a bit now the real money was on the Business Analyst and Technical Sales side, they were making 6 figures, while developers and network engineers, and support roles were significantly less.

All the Indian contractors had flooded the market and were taking much less pay dropping the pay scale. I guess it's changing now? Or does it depend on geographic location, and other factors.

You are confusing IT infrastructure jobs with high end software and app development. This is what I meant when I said working in an IT department at a regular company is not the same as working in a tech company or a FAANG tech company. This also plays into what the thread is about cause the people the girl in the OP is talking about play on folks who don't know the difference and want to act like they are experts or give folks guidance.

Dont get me wrong infrastructure support jobs like network engineers and system analyst can pay very well relative to a normal company salary but its not the same as software and app development. Technical side, like software engineering is where the money is and at FAANG companies that's 250k to 500k a year and up. Creating software and new features, sometimes from the ground up that will be used by millions of users and drive millions in revenue is a whole different different beast and top teir companies like facebook, microsoft, google etc pay for top talent.

Most of these "black in tech" folks cant point to a single product or service that they directly worked on contributed to or developed. How many of them are creating the metaverse for facebook? You dont ever hear them say they are working on the next version of windows or Mac OS. When have you ever heard them talk about a new feature or app they worked on that's being deployed? Just cause you work in an IT department or for a tech company doesnt mean your are "in tech". It's like someone who works in the mailroom at goldman sachs saying they are a black person in finance.
 

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There's account managers, sales reps, UI/UX testers, and other roles within tech that people can do without a programming background. Again tech is lucrative but NOT everyone is going to be a damn software developer. I'm a shytty programmer so I went the systems operations side. Now I'm a solutions engineer and make just as much if not more than devs because I'm a tech that can understand and communicate to non technical people.
 

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There's account managers, sales reps, UI/UX testers, and other roles within tech that people can do without a programming background. Again tech is lucrative but NOT everyone is going to be a damn software developer. I'm a shytty programmer so I went the systems operations side. Now I'm a solutions engineer and make just as much if not more than devs because I'm a tech that can understand and communicate to non technical people.
That’s the real lick :lolbron:
 

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There's account managers, sales reps, UI/UX testers, and other roles within tech that people can do without a programming background. Again tech is lucrative but NOT everyone is going to be a damn software developer. I'm a shytty programmer so I went the systems operations side. Now I'm a solutions engineer and make just as much if not more than devs because I'm a tech that can understand and communicate to non technical people.

is that the argument that people are making though?

isn't this thread about two things.

i. more representation on the dev side
ii. fakers online in "BIT"

 

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America is racist and unwelcoming towards black folks. Don't ever let someone else determine what you can, should, or will do. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, etc...

Letting some racists determine your life trajectory is more power than they deserve. Also hard =/= impossible.
I honestly haven’t experienced much racism in 12 years(4 in the military). I feel like I’m highly sought after and I’m without a degree.

I do have a white passing name but you obviously have to go thru multiple interviews where they can easily tell you’re black and I still get nice offers.
 
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