Black woman goes IN on the black-in-tech scammers who are really just recruiters in HR, not in key roles

[Carlton Banks]

Just spouting bullshyt huh? Good to know. Added to the ignore list.

Good nikka. fukk I wanna talk with you for?

 

[3rdWorld]

At the end of the day if you want a career in tech the children need to start coding by the time they are 8-10. On top of that it would probably help if Black children had access to top math teachers and coders. Its a process and a mentality

Write code not rhymes.

In India and Pakistan they have programming centres where 1000s of pre-teens are taken through the rigors of coding..by the time you sit next to him in college class he's a 1000 years ahead of you, you cannot compete.

 

[GoldenGlove]

You nikkas are truly clueless if you think you need to know how to fukking code to work for a tech company.

Strategy and business consultants make 6 figures in tech and they don't code shyt.

 

[RennisDeynolds]

fukk recruiters in general. The new saying should be "those that can't do, recruit"

 

[RennisDeynolds]

You nikkas are truly clueless if you think you need to know how to fukking code to work for a tech company.

Strategy and business consultants make 6 figures in tech and they don't code shyt.

Making PowerPoint - oh excuse me - "preparing decks"


And being glorified sales people "implementation consultants"


Whatever works though

 

[Yaboysix]

Wow!

 

[null]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=black+in+tech

a breh had to look ...

 

[GoldenGlove]

Making PowerPoint - oh excuse me - "preparing decks"


And being glorified sales people "implementation consultants"


Whatever works though

Yeah, cause a shytty presentation is going to sell million dollars worth of work right? Sales is king anyway, so you don't even get to build or resolve a solution for a client to begin with if your company can't sell the work genius.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=black+in+tech

a breh had to look ...

Yea this is exactly the stuff the girl in the OP is talking about. This chick is not in "tech" or at a tech company.. she is more admin and support and a quick search shows she works for target and manages a "diversity" intern program for engineers. She has no technical background and is misrepresenting herself to show off to other black folks and say she is "black in tech".

 

[Phitz]

You are confusing IT infrastructure jobs with high end software and app development. This is what I meant when I said working in an IT department at a regular company is not the same as working in a tech company or a FAANG tech company. This also plays into what the thread is about cause the people the girl in the OP is talking about play on folks who don't know the difference and want to act like they are experts or give folks guidance.

Dont get me wrong infrastructure support jobs like network engineers and system analyst can pay very well relative to a normal company salary but its not the same as software and app development. Technical side, like software engineering is where the money is and at FAANG companies that's 250k to 500k a year and up. Creating software and new features, sometimes from the ground up that will be used by millions of users and drive millions in revenue is a whole different different beast and top teir companies like facebook, microsoft, google etc pay for top talent.

Most of these "black in tech" folks cant point to a single product or service that they directly worked on contributed to or developed. How many of them are creating the metaverse for facebook? You dont ever hear them say they are working on the next version of windows or Mac OS. When have you ever heard them talk about a new feature or app they worked on that's being deployed? Just cause you work in an IT department or for a tech company doesnt mean your are "in tech". It's like someone who works in the mailroom at goldman sachs saying they are a black person in finance.

Yeah the recruiters and account managers/client management are a different animal, but during that Asian contract invasion, even the the up and coming tech companies were paying low for people who had high app development and DBA skills. Like 60-65K low. It's like some HR was also targeting these guys for 3rd level "product support". I guess some of the tech start ups were living off small investment capital at the time I dont know, but there were alot of underpaid developers due to those visa contractors from India in sharing apartments with 10 other guys. The visa developers or new immigrants would take whatever pay and dilute the market a few years ago. Maybe it's changed recently or a mix of change and location I suppose.

I think we both agree that you can't just come off the street with a cert or no experience like they say for the technical side, you have to earn your keep or at least be able to communicate with the tech leads on their level to get a serious look.

The other side is that one does have to do their research in regards to their market value or they may get taken advantage of in regards to their talent.

 

[Phitz]

Making PowerPoint - oh excuse me - "preparing decks"


And being glorified sales people "implementation consultants"


Whatever works though

This is what I was talking about, non technical salaries making more than the avg technical level employee. I couldn't reconcile the DBA making 80K and the Business Analyst making 150K. Seemed unfair

 

[RennisDeynolds]

This is what I was talking about, non technical salaries making more than the avg technical level employee. I couldn't reconcile the DBA making 80K and the Business Analyst making 150K. Seemed unfair

To be fair business analyst is such a broad title. Aren't they dealing with large data sets a lot of the time, so maybe python but definitely sql?


Although at a tech company it's probably different from a data analyst/scientist

 

[T. Dubb Ya]

Write code not rhymes.

 

[Regular Developer]

While I'm a developer, The questions shes mentioning, a good recruiter better be able to answer these questions. Recruiters should know what type of jobs someone can get without coding experience. Now if she was asking some more technical questions like "What did you do to get yhour position" then she'd be right.

 

[Regular Developer]

Most computer science grads these days aren't even on the same skill level as a recent long term bootcamp grads tbh (6months - year) people are leaving camps knowing JavaScript, Python, C- and already worked with react native etc with decent projects on their hub for interviewers to see. While many computer science grads are basically stuck at data structures and old comp science and have to be interns. A few FAANG Software Devs have told me bootcamp grads are easier to work with because of the mentality above rather than cocky College Grads. I believe it.

This is interesting, I've always wondered what the bootcamp experience is like. I dunno though, I think there's so much more structure with college Comp Sci programs. I don't see how a bootcamp can cover all that (though I'm also a super slow learner). But I am a little wary to hear them say that because while they say their easier to work with. Do bootcamp grads tend to start off with the same starting salary for the same jobs?