Black dads outperform other fathers groups so where does the absentee father myth come from?

[Master Teacher]

I said exactly that on the first page of this thread.



Maybe you should read the thread instead of calling nikkas c00ns and cacs, dumb ass nikka.

now you didn't I just checked only thing on the first page is the message I quoted which is the last message on the page

whatever man

 

[Originalman]

I can not speak to the experiences you have had, but I was born in the country and I grew up in the hood in Chicago. I have literally never met a Black person that did not know their father or know of their father or know of his family. Meaning every Black person that I have ever met knew something about that nikka, whether it be his name or some other basic shyt about him like whether he had other kids or not, even if the father was never around.

The only Black people that I sort of knew of that did not know their father or know of their father or know of his family were usually from some kind of rape situation or from some kind of situation where the mothers were doing some hoe shyt and she didn't know the father herself. Otherwise every Black woman that I have ever met could tell a kid a little bit about their dad, even if the woman didn't like that nikka any more. The weirdest part is that many times a father's family members, something like a sister, mother or a daughter usually kept in contact with the father's child even if a jackass father didn't want to be bothered. I guess times must have really changed.

This is true as I think about it. Especially the part about the father being a deadbeat yet the fathers family kept in contact with the kids.

I saw the same thing with a dude I went to high school with. His dad was a dead beat and a drug addict. But his dad's mother and fathers family were always in the dudes life. From keeping him to spending time with him.

 

[Noriega]

I'ma try to break it down like this...

When they say the father is "absent" what it could mean is that the father can be PRESENT in his child's life like helping with school work, supporting the child with clothes, money, food and spending time etc from a distance.

However he's consider ABSENT because he doesn't live in the child's household with the mother.

I think the word absent needs to be explained a little better concerning these matters to get more of an understanding as it can be confusing for some .

It ain’t nothing like having a man in the household tho. Just cuz ya pops bring you by a pair of retros or the newest 2k once a
Month don’t mean he’s not an absent father

 

[5n0man]

now you didn't I just checked only thing on the first page is the message I quoted which is the last message on the page

whatever man

My shyt is set to 50 post per page.

Regardless, that post was made literally 4 post after the one you quoted.

You ain't read shyt, but wanna jump in here attacking me with strawman arguments over some shyt I didnt say.

So if you wanna permaban bet that I'm black, we can do that.

Alternatively, find one post where I said some cac/c00n shyt. We can ban bet that too.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

So the black dads who are there do a lot...how does that negate the % of black dads who aren’t there?

 

[Unknown Poster]

My dad will always be my biggest hero.

There's a reason I grew up to be a strong intelligent unique take no shyt black man....I learned from the best.

 

[Samori Toure]

It ain’t nothing like having a man in the household tho. Just cuz ya pops bring you by a pair of retros or the newest 2k once a
Month don’t mean he’s not an absent father

Likewise just because a dad is in the house that does not mean he is doing shyt for the kid. I have known two families where the husband lived in a house with his wife and kids, but those dudes were basically deadbeat dads that were just living in the home. So I think that the measure should be about what they do for their children in the way of finances, rearing and quality time/attention.

 

[YouMadd?]

It takes more than bathing, feeding, and playing with kids to raise a well adjusted productive member of society.

 

[YouMadd?]

Your saying that blacks dad's who are in their kids life do a better job at parenting. That doesn't have anything to do with the overall percentage dads in their kids life.

Here is a man with a functioning brain...
Good post.

 

[Xyrax]

Because.....

"Some of the worst paparazzi's I've ever seen and I ever known
Put the worst on display so the world can see and that's all they will ever show"




How many mfers walking around today thinking all of Africa is just dirt roads and deer skinned huts instead of sprawling skylines filled with skyscrapers and more?

 

[GoAggieGo.]

My father is many things. He’s strict, cold, he’s an alcoholic, this world has beaten him up and I didn’t realize it until I got older, but he’s always been a provider, taught me and my bro how to be men, made sure we always had food on the table, been the spiritual head and leader of the family, and put us all before himself.

I had a great father. Will admit he’s made mistakes when it can’t to my mama, but I know he loves her and us. This stat doesn’t surprise me at all

 

[3rdWorld]

They lie about us, they use Black people as cover to hide themselves.

 

[JLova]

Never met a white or Jewish kid in Cali that didn't have their father in their life

On my block out of all my friends I was the only 1 with a father in his life

Explain

A sad reality black folk don’t want to believe. That said, black fathers in the household tend to be active. I know plenty of white kids with dads who were only there financially but checked out of the raising part.

 

[Ya?]

Did you see the poll numbers and statistics that back my claim?

Please ignore this thread. You’re a known wench on the site already.

Nope I didn't see the poll and I wouldn’t use a poll on this site to determine that the stat is wrong. A self selection of people saying that they had a good father. What does a good father mean for each person?

It is relative for everyone, you have to see what people say to explain the stat. Also, black fatherless stigma has plagued black men for so long that people have low expectation of what a good father is as opposed to motherhood and excuse some behaviour in men they would not in women. There is a spectrum of parenting that cannot be captured in this poll you created.

Plenty of times I have heard well he was crappy but at least he was there. Or he drops by a few times a year and bought gifts, etc....You can’t create a poll without having people explain their own experience on their relationship with their fathers.

For me a good father, is someone is present in the household and is involved in the raising of his kids. Nowadays, both women and men work, a man earning an income only is not sufficient. People who have common law arrangement and parents who have custody arrangement due to a divorce should be treated separately to account for the unique circumstance.

 

[get these nets]

It ain’t nothing like having a man in the household tho. Just cuz ya pops bring you by a pair of retros or the newest 2k once a
Month don’t mean he’s not an absent father

I didn't figure out the details of this story until I was an adult.

I was raised by both parents. In middle school coming back from winter break, I used to low key be jealous of kids whose dads splurged on Christmas gifts for them.......usually it was the latest style of winter coat.
Looking back,in 9 out of ten cases, it was a fathers who didn't live with the sons.......would spoil him for birthday and christmas. My father was there everyday, holding down the fort and raising us. Easy to play Santa Claus twice a year if you're basically living as a single man.
I was ashamed of my younger self for envying the payoff gifts that my classmates got...and for not fully appreciating my Pops.

Father's presence > father's presents