Black dads outperform other fathers groups so where does the absentee father myth come from?

Did you have a good father?

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    Votes: 121 74.2%
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Abandon their families or is the issue really about mothers blocking the fathers from the children because the mothers and fathers are no longer together? Because I am of the opinion that custodial issues and parental interference is much more common than abandonment.
My full quote was "many Black men abandon their families or are not (living) in the same household "
 
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this black fathers not being in their kids lives is up there with fried chicken, and black people not being able to swim stereotypes that are outdated and only believed by cacs who haven't realized the world is moving past them and times have changed

nikkaz talking about fathers not being there for their friends when they were growing up like thats relevant in 2019

you cacs and c00ns are exposing yourselves
 

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OP this was a stereotype even when black marriage was at a all time high. It has been a stereotype for a very long time.

Same as the stereotype that black mothers are not good mothers. Even though there was a time when they raised their kids and white folks kids.

Second I would bet money that black men even have a better relationship with their step kids than non black fathers.

Finally we have to seperate born out of wedlock from not having a father in your life. Those two things do not equal the same.

You can be born out of wedlock and your father lives in your house with you. You can be born out of wedlock and your father is in your life and raising you.

Thats why I don't like when people count that born out of wedlock stat for absent father. Cause it is not an accurate stat for if a father is in a childs life.
 

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This stat is taking today not back then you dumb ass nikka
are you in your son's life right now

you a cac or a posing c00n

Black fathers not being present is not a problem in today's time, the kids who didn't have fathers have kids of their own and they understand the importance of being there so the stat makes sense
I said exactly that on the first page of this thread.
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Maybe that stat he quoted is talking about black fathers TODAY spending time with their children, cause it cant be talking about when we were children.

Maybe you should read the thread instead of calling nikkas c00ns and cacs, dumb ass nikka.
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You know something....
This shyt isnt surprising...
Being on this site for alil while now.... I'm seeing that the ppl on here are just kinda different...
Not in a good or bad way... just different
 

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My full quote was "many Black men abandon their families or are not (living) in the same household "

Alright, but those are actually two separate things. Not living in the same household does not mean abandoned.

Also not living in the same household as a child is pretty standard stuff in the USA for people of all colors, because the divorce rate in this country is ridiculous.
 
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Black men in recent times have stepped it up. As much as the older generation likes to talk down on the youngstas, their generation left a lot of single parent households.
 

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I think it depends on where you are from
My wife is from PG county and said it was rare for someone not to have a father in the house
I'm from philly and it was the opposite.
Some one can not be in the house and be involved but i have no idea how you quantify that
Like who is being polled, the fathers? the mothers? both? A dude who sees his kid once a month might say he's involved if asked, iono
I'd be interested in knowing what % of men are in court for child support grouped by race

This is true. I grew up in an upscale neighborhood in chicago. It was rare for the black kids in my neighborhood to not have a dad or a step dad in the household.

But my wife grew up in the rural south and in her small town most kids whether middle class or poor grew up with a father or step father in their home.

Finally we have to always question where this absent parent data comes from. What I mean is due to black folks economics they are maybe more likely to play with the stats.

So what I mean by that is if the stats are pulled from income taxes or college financial aid data. It can be a financial benefit for a parent saying they are in a single house hold when they are actually in a two parent household.

Cause in point my wife works in not for profit that deals with providing child care for low income folks. Do you know what the biggest fraud is? You guessed it married women or women living with their kids father pretending they were single in order to get government assistance for child care.
 

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I think it depends on where you are from
My wife is from PG county and said it was rare for someone not to have a father in the house
I'm from philly and it was the opposite.
Some one can not be in the house and be involved but i have no idea how you quantify that
Like who is being polled, the fathers? the mothers? both? A dude who sees his kid once a month might say he's involved if asked, iono
I'd be interested in knowing what % of men are in court for child support grouped by race
This is interesting because I grew up PG county too and alot of the dudes in my neighborhood didn't have their dads in the house. I'd say like half of my friends dads wasn't in the house. True story, I lived around the corner from Ginuwine's oldest son. We went to school together and everything. Now his dad wasn't in the house but he would come take him to shyt like All-Star weekend so that counts as being involved I guess. But some of the other dudes in my neighborhood had single moms and went to see their dads occasionally.
 

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Black men in recent times have stepped it up. As much as the older generation likes to talk down on the youngstas, their generation left a lot of single parent households.

You might want to go back and take a look at older generations. Those dudes were with their kids more than you think. In fact a lot of grandkids and great grandkids grew up with their grandfathers and great grandfathers. This shyt of kids not being with their fathers is pretty recent shyt, as in the last 40-50 years. I noticed that it came in around the same time as Civil Rights in the late 60s and early 70s.
 

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Alright, but those are actually two separate things. Not living in the same household does not mean abandoned.

Also not living in the same household as a child is pretty standard stuff in the USA for people of all colors, because the divorce rate in this country is ridiculous.

Also the stigma of having a child out of wedlock for a woman isn't there as in the past.

But you are right. Also that stat doesn't take into account black men who are divorcced that have children in a seperate household.

The stats are just fuzzy math. Like the whole more black men in jail than in college. When actually how they pull the stat is to only count black men in 4 year colleges between the ages 18 to 24. But count all black men in prison between the ages of 15 to 80 plus.

So somehow a black man at the age of 28 in college doesn't count toward the in college stat. But 80 plus year old Bill Cosby does count towards the in jail stat
 
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You might want to go back and take a look at older generations. Those dudes were with their kids more than you think. In fact a lot of grandkids and great grandkids grew up with their grandfathers and great grandfathers. This shyt of kids not being with their fathers is pretty recent shyt, as in the last 40-50 years. I noticed that it came in around the same time as Civil Rights in the late 60s and early 70s.

True. Often times the father or grandfather not being able to spend time with his kids or grandkids was due to working long hours or having to work out of town.
 

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Also the stigma of having a child out if wedlock for a woman isn't there as in the past.

But you are right. Also that stat doesn't take into account black who are divorces that have children in a seperate household.

The stats are just fuzzy math. Like the whole more black men in jail than in college. When actually how they pull the stat is to only count black men in 4 year colleges between the ages 18 to 24. But count all black men in prison between the ages of 15 to 80 plus.

So somehow a black man at the age of 28 in college doesn't count toward the in college stat. But 80 plus year old Bill Cosby does count towards the in jail stat

I think this fits what you are stating:

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