Bill Simmons on 2012 team vs. the Dream Team

Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
916
Reputation
140
Daps
2,066
Reppin
NULL
And all the focus on Lebron, you got Barkley and Malone trying to chase Durant and Melo around screens. They'd get open looks.

A 3-2 zone shuts all that down..when lebron drives to the basket and he kicks out.. He wont be be able to swing it weakside b/c a man us there.. He swings up top you have either jordan or pippen guarding.. The 3-2 zone would force the 12 team to drive.. An they would have to see the big men of 92 each time..
 

NYC Rebel

...on the otherside of the pond
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
68,481
Reputation
10,618
Daps
231,256
A 3-2 zone shuts all that down..when lebron drives to the basket and he kicks out.. He wont be be able to swing it weakside b/c a man us there.. He swings up top you have either jordan or pippen guarding.. The 3-2 zone would force the 12 team to drive.. An they would have to see the big men of 92 each time..


Then Lebron would just score. Two men split under the basket with Bron attacking the middle?

:childplease:
 

nomoreneveragain

Superstar
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
17,448
Reputation
1,450
Daps
29,405
All that Defensive Goldtending they can get away with FIBA Rules.

All it takes is some decent close outs and the 12 team isn't shooting these Video game numbers
 

street heat

merchant of death
Joined
Jun 15, 2012
Messages
12,209
Reputation
-2,926
Daps
29,647
Reppin
NULL
I got John Stockton, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen at any time and I'm supposed to be worried about a Trap?

In order to play a Trap, you gotta score?

2012 teams defense way overrated, they couldn't stop that Tunisian Center who got his sneakers signed by Kobe.

Did you see there Pick and Roll Defense? They have none

and they still blew most people out. sorry they couldnt get a shut out, which i guess they would have to do to get any respect from some of you. yes they had to give something up as every team does, i just think the dream team would give up more.

2012 team = better athletes, scorers and shooters. i also think they are the better TEAM. like all the teams after the first dream team until 08 that they said were basically all star teams, not real teams. the dream team is like that as well its just masked by the fact that their competition was so bad, they appeared to be the greatest team assembled. if they had to play against a real TEAM i think they would have struggled.
 

Trip

slippery slope
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
21,396
Reputation
262
Daps
18,337
Reppin
FL
they hit a lot of 3's....that really impresses you that much?

We're going to ignore how badly they'd get killed on the offensive glass? 92 team aint jackin up 3's leading to transition buckets either....
 

street heat

merchant of death
Joined
Jun 15, 2012
Messages
12,209
Reputation
-2,926
Daps
29,647
Reppin
NULL
All that Defensive Goldtending they can get away with FIBA Rules.

All it takes is some decent close outs and the 12 team isn't shooting these Video game numbers

decent close outs ?

i cant believe how you people are underrated the scoring prowess of players, like lebron, melo, KD, and kobe. these are some of the greatest scorers the game has seen and close outs dont mean sh!t to them. they are amazing not just because of their numbers, but because they can ALL score slashing, shooting from deep, or down on the block.

there is no way in hell the dream team would stop them from getting good looks
 

Gravity

Banned
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
18,826
Reputation
2,195
Daps
56,263
All it would take is one of those blackout shooting nights from the 2012 team, the centers are the huge advantage for the 92 team, but when this current teams gets hot there's absolutely nothing you can do.
What's the likelyhood of this team getting that hot against the '92 team though? Id say that it wouldn't be likely at all. They got a lot of those open looks because they got constant stops and turnovers. They were also able to get away with playing small ball which allowed them to push the tempo against teams that were clearly at a disadvantage athletically. I don't think that any of that would e the case against the Dream Team. Those guys wouldn't be overwhelmed by the defensive pressure. Those guys could control tempo by executing. So there are things that could be done to slow a hot outside shooting team down. It's a lot more complicated than saying "well, if this 2012 team got hot like they did against Nigeria then there's nothing the '92 team could do".
 

NYC Rebel

...on the otherside of the pond
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
68,481
Reputation
10,618
Daps
231,256
they hit a lot of 3's....that really impresses you that much?

Yes. Because we have to tell you AGAIN...it was frequent enough that it wasn't a fluke.

We're going to ignore how badly they'd get killed on the offensive glass? 92 team aint jackin up 3's leading to transition buckets either....


They were getting KILLED on the offensive glass?

:stopitslime:
 

Trip

slippery slope
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
21,396
Reputation
262
Daps
18,337
Reppin
FL
Yes. Because we have to tell you AGAIN...it was frequent enough that it wasn't a fluke.




They were getting KILLED on the offensive glass?

:stopitslime:

the 92 team would decimate them on the glass
 

street heat

merchant of death
Joined
Jun 15, 2012
Messages
12,209
Reputation
-2,926
Daps
29,647
Reppin
NULL
they hit a lot of 3's....that really impresses you that much?

We're going to ignore how badly they'd get killed on the offensive glass? 92 team aint jackin up 3's leading to transition buckets either....

will people stop saying this ? 2012 team outrebounded everyone they played against. no team would KILL them on the glass.
 

Huellz Santana

Shocking
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
3,304
Reputation
240
Daps
7,316
Reppin
Da city where the skinny nikkas die
screw all this analytical babble that's been going on for pages about who does what.

all I know is, in the prime of his career, with a good surrounding cast, I'm betting everything I have on Michael Jordan to come up with a win.

everything else is highly situational but there's no way Jordan doesn't rise to the occassion.

this is basketball, anybody can beat anybody and anybody can get hot. but we know who was the biggest competitor in the game.​
 

Trip

slippery slope
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
21,396
Reputation
262
Daps
18,337
Reppin
FL
will people stop saying this ? 2012 team outrebounded everyone they played against. no team would KILL them on the glass.

no shyt?

you are nuts though if you think they 're a better rebounding team than the 92 squad or if you dont think its a clear advantage for the 92 team.
 
Top