Is that standard? So MJ was 6'6" w/o shoes?
Bill Simmons on 2012 team vs. the Dream Team
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Is that standard? So MJ was 6'6" w/o shoes?
It varies, there's no real standard set but the majority of players have their listed heights with shoes on. And they also round up, like Kevin Love is listed at 6"10 but he was 6"9 and change in shoes at the combine.
MJ was 6"4 and change without shoes.
How is that relevant to this discussion? We're not talking about the Chicago Bulls v. the 2012 team.
Besides I don't see any Melo v. Nigeria or Durant v. Argentina like explosions here...
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I agree we just saw a historic shooting display from these guys. I just don't get the argument they're going to continue to shoot that way against the best defense they will ever face.
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That's the problem. Their advantage is an "if"..
The '92 team's advantage on the inside is nightly. It doesn't go away.
mastermind
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Saysumthinfunnymike
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its not an "if"
they hit 16 three pointers a game during this tournament
It is an if. The best three point shooters in the world don't go off every night. You are banking on them going off from three as if it's a given.. you are factoring in numbers against far inferior defenses.
A given is the 2012 team getting bodied on the inside.
You stick with your 25-footers and I'll take my chances in the paint.
It is an if. The best three point shooters in the world don't go off every night. You are banking on them going off from three as if it's a given.. you are factoring in numbers against far inferior defenses.
A given is the 2012 team getting bodied on the inside.
You stick with your 25-footers and I'll take my chances in the paint.
25 footers? The reason they were making so many 3s is because the international 3 point line is essentially a long 2 pointer, which is what most of these guys shoot to begin with.
Yet again, Spain shot a better percentage and more freethrows than Team USA and still lost because they got hit for 45pts from 3.
This would be the game of the century
mastermind
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It is an if. The best three point shooters in the world don't go off every night. You are banking on them going off from three as if it's a given.. you are factoring in numbers against far inferior defenses.
A given is the 2012 team getting bodied on the inside.
You stick with your 25-footers and I'll take my chances in the paint.
good thing the USA had about 4 guys that showed they could go off at any given time. Did you actually watch them play in the olympics?
Kobe, CP3, Melo, Durant, even DWill would go on a 3 point flurry and effectively end the game. This happened too much to make it like its an unusual occurrence.
Or which team was better since there was 5 members of the original Dream Team that were on the 1996 team. IDK but I honestly see the 96 Dream Team feasting on the 92 squad. Hakeem and Shaq would take a shyt on the 92 front court and the perimeter players are as good as the 92 squad too imo
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Mastermind on his "did you watch?" shyt again lmao. Never gets old.
If Gasol is an advantage against the current '12 bigs and Spain loses only by seven even with allowing 15 threes.. what do we call having Robinson, Ewing, Barkley and Malone on the inside and the '92 team having better perimeter defenders than Spain had for this tourney?
Think about replacing the Gasols with the '92 bigs and Rudy/Navarro with Pippen/Jordan.
then think about replacing Calderon/Rodriguez with Stockton/Magic.
You would agree that Spain is a tough match for the 2012 team, correct? They were a tough match in the '08 Gold Medal game as well.
So now replace all of Spain's best players with far superior players at each position.
Spain allows 15 threes in the gold medal game. Is the '92 Dream Team going to allow more than that? 20? And why should I believe that the '12 team is going to shoot better than 15-37 from three against a far superior defense on a given night? This tourney is such a small sample size. They are going to have games where they shoot 15-37 or worse against inferior defense. We saw it. They certainly could shoot better against the '92 team but that goes back to what I was saying. It's a bigger question mark than The Dream Team's advantage on the inside.
If Gasol is an advantage against the current '12 bigs and Spain loses only by seven even with allowing 15 threes.. what do we call having Robinson, Ewing, Barkley and Malone on the inside and the '92 team having better perimeter defenders than Spain had for this tourney?
Think about replacing the Gasols with the '92 bigs and Rudy/Navarro with Pippen/Jordan.
then think about replacing Calderon/Rodriguez with Stockton/Magic.
You would agree that Spain is a tough match for the 2012 team, correct? They were a tough match in the '08 Gold Medal game as well.
So now replace all of Spain's best players with far superior players at each position.
Spain allows 15 threes in the gold medal game. Is the '92 Dream Team going to allow more than that? 20? And why should I believe that the '12 team is going to shoot better than 15-37 from three against a far superior defense on a given night? This tourney is such a small sample size. They are going to have games where they shoot 15-37 or worse against inferior defense. We saw it. They certainly could shoot better against the '92 team but that goes back to what I was saying. It's a bigger question mark than The Dream Team's advantage on the inside.
NYC Rebel
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Why do people think the three pointers the 2012 team hit with frequency would suddenly stop?
That shyt happened way to frequently to say they'd have off games.
One or two of them would go on those three point barrages. That was the best shooting exhibition I've seen in my entire life.
That shyt happened way to frequently to say they'd have off games.
One or two of them would go on those three point barrages. That was the best shooting exhibition I've seen in my entire life.
I'd expect the original Dream Team to win 7 out of 10 times. But the versatility of Bron, Durant, and Melo make it impossible for me to count them out in a one-game situation. This is a younger, fresher team top to bottom too. Those PFs and Centers on the original team though... this year's team would have to hope for a shootout. 'Bron and Durant are scary as shyt though, I think people are underrating just how impossible to guard they'd be.
