Belichick without Brady through 2022

[Bboystyle]

I'm co-signing because it's true, people are using Brady NOW to compare with a rookie Mac Jones, the arguments are disingenuous as fukk, Brady grew to become the GOAT, saying he was 'top 3' in the 01 run or ignoring that Brady was on the field for only two of the six touchdowns scored in the 01 run is clown shyt

Exactly. And these weridos dont see how im saying Brady didnt become who he is until after 2004 and giving him credit for developing into one of the goats.

But u have weirdos like @No1 who just wanna slurp Brady on everything he did and not give credit where credit is due.

I blame ESPN for this

 

[JLova]

Shoutout to all the brehs that knew Brady >>> Beli

This is retard bruh. I'm sorry.

A player vs a coach? How does that even work?

When Brady was winning those SBs as a game manager I guess Belli had nothing to do with that? Yall are ridiculous.

 

[Paper Boi]

#12 won

 

[JLova]

I'm co-signing because it's true, people are using Brady NOW to compare with a rookie Mac Jones, the arguments are disingenuous as fukk, Brady grew to become the GOAT, saying he was 'top 3' in the 01 run or ignoring that Brady was on the field for only two of the six touchdowns scored in the 01 run is clown shyt

It's so hard to talk football with some people here. Like the Bills were favoured yesterday. Pats are a rebuilding team with a rookie QB. How folk are comparing this team to the great teams that had arlready won superbowls is beyond me. Comparing a 3-4 SB Brady with a rook. Like wtf are people smoking?

 

[BlueHeffner]

This is retard bruh. I'm sorry.

A player vs a coach? How does that even work?

When Brady was winning those SBs as a game manager I guess Belli had nothing to do with that? Yall are ridiculous.

It really isnt


The argument was always, who needed who more…Thats deaded. Its clear Bill needs Brady more

 

[Bboystyle]

It's so hard to talk football with some people here. Like the Bills were favoured yesterday. Pats are a rebuilding team with a rookie QB. How folk are comparing this team to the great teams that had arlready won superbowls is beyond me. Comparing a 3-4 SB Brady with a rook. Like wtf are people smoking?

NBA hot takes have taken over NFL discussions

 

[Bboystyle]

It really isnt


The argument was always, who needed who more…Thats deaded. Its clear Bill needs Brady more

Tbh, i dont think Brady is beating the Bills with this current NE team. I dont think Brady ever had to over come 47 points in a playoff game.

Pats D was atrocious

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

Bad loss, but i don't view this year as a disaster for Belichick or a bad mark on his career. You guys acting like he's trash unless New England won it all

Still has already turned New England back into a playoff team. What coaches we putting ahead of him?

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

Tbh, i dont think Brady is beating the Bills with this current NE team. I dont think Brady ever had to over come 47 points in a playoff game.

Pats D was atrocious

Same way Pats took an L against Tennessee in his final game. They'd be bytching about the bad D and poor WRs. Say what you want but even with Brady, New England was never known to win it all with sus Defense and bad wr talent.

 

[JLova]

The 86 Giants had prime LT, went 14-2 and dominated the entire league

More goal post moving. Montana and Bill are GOATs...though. They should have won!

That was just an example using Coli-retarded logic. Do you really need me to provide more examples of teams getting dominated by better teams? All this to ride Brady's face?

 

[BucciMane]

This discussion is always stupid to me when people compare Belichick v.s. Brady. I do my best not to turn into some anti-Brady person when supporting Belichick.

If we just take a look at the Super Bowls, how can people say it's mostly Brady during those games?


Wins:

Rams: Brady led the game winning drive. I don't care if it was a FG, he did what he needed to do. However, the Patriots defense shut down the "Greatest Show on Turf".

Panthers: Great game by Brady. He had over 300 yards passing and three TD's. Fantastic performance.

Eagles: Once again, Brady played a very good game. He did everything he needed to do and then some. The defense also held the Eagles to just 21 points and forced three INT's.

Seahawks: An historic 4th quarter from Brady. However, he had two INT's that helped put the Patriots in that hole. Hightower and Butler made two massive plays at the goal-line to seal the win. Brady did everything he could in the 4th quarter, but that defense deserves a lot of credit as well

Falcons: Unbelievable performance in the second half from the offense and defense. Scoring multiple TD's with multiple two point conversions is incredible. We'll likely never see something like that again. However, let's not forget the Hightower strip sack and the defense shutting down the Falcons in that second half.

Rams: Don't even have to get into any detail here. An all-time historic defensive performance. Brady made some big plays in the 4th quarter, but that was a defensive masterpiece.

Bucs: Brady played well, but that defense was on Mahomes ass all game. I'm not going to sit here and give all the credit to the defense because Brady still played well and didn't turn the ball over. I'd say this was the most complete team win for him.


Losses:

Giants: I don't want to hear anything about the Patriots having the lead with a few minutes to go and not stopping the Giants. This was the HIGHEST scoring offense in NFL history and they put up 14 points. There should not be one ounce of blame thrown at Belichick for that game. That was 100% on Brady and the offense.

Giants: A 13-3 record and putting up 17 points again. A massive disappointment there. HOWEVER, Brady did not have a lot of weapons that game. He had Hernandez and Welker, and then an injured Gronk and aging Branch. The Patriots held the Giants to 21 points. That should be enough to win.

Eagles: All-time performance from Brady, and that game is 100% on Belichick.

 

[King Poetic]

Even Tom Brady commercials are a abundance after leaving beli

 

[BucciMane]

Same way Pats took an L against Tennessee in his final game. They'd be bytching about the bad D and poor WRs. Say what you want but even with Brady, New England was never known to win it all with sus Defense and bad wr talent.

I respect everything that Brady did here in New England, and will never bash him or make him sound like an average QB. He is the GOAT, period.

However, my biggest issue with the entire Brady discussion to years is that people say he's had no weapons or no defense. When Belichick gets him offensive weapons, people cry that the defense isn't good enough. When Belichick does to get Revis, Gilmore, etc., then people say the Patriots have no weapons on offense. There is this thing called a salary cap that people don't seem to realize. There have absolutely been points in his career where he hasn't had great weapons, but he's also had:

Top five at WORST WR in Randy Moss

GOAT TE in Gronk

First team all-pro in Welker.

Cory Dillon



There are others I could add in there, but that's my biggest pet peeve and issue with these conversations. It is very hard to have great weapons on offense and a top tier defense. There is almost always going to be a trade off.

 

[JLova]

NBA hot takes have taken over NFL discussions

shyt is annoying. Completely discount all the parts of a football team that need to do their part in order to win games. It's 1 guy that plays hero ball and is responsible for the wins! It sounds so retarded to hear that in football of all sports. The ultimate team sport.

 

[The_Sheff]

When you are a defensive coach a D your team is the first in history to not force a punt, FG, or turnover on any drive then you deserve all the shyt coming your way.

There is no defending not getting ONE stop.