Batman 89 will go down as the bigger classic than TDK

[Rapmastermind]

Both are CLASSICS and the BEST BATMAN MOVIES. No need to make it "This is better than this". People who grew up on Batman 89 will always love it more than "The Dark Knight". I loved "TDK" but I'm Batman 89 for life. I saw it on the Big Screen in 89. They had shirts and hats it was Batman Mania, it was crazy. Love "Returns too". Look Batman was a Classic for Two Decades before "TDK" came out. Jack's Joker stood for 20 years before Heath could play him on the screen. Heath did a great job, no doubt. But I still got to go with Jack, his role was just too iconic and very memorable. The soundtrack was Legendary. You can't hate on Batman 89, it's too iconic. Also for the people that want to bring up Box Office:

Adjusted for Inflation:

1 The Dark Knight WB $616,432,900 $533,345,358 7/18/08
2 Batman WB $522,523,300 $251,188,924 6/23/89


TDK only did about 100 Million more in total ticket sales. That shows you how Impactful Batman 89 was. As far as what will be the Bigger Classic. Well The Dark Knight is 8 years old. Batman 89 is 25 years old and we are still talking about it. Michael Keaton might walk away with his 1st Oscar on Sunday.

 

[Master Teacher]

Same can be said for every single super hero movie ever made. They are ALL the same thing. Hero has to find the Villan and Kill/Capture him. It's a super hero movie, what plot are you looking for besides good verses evil???

And everything else you said is just your own opinion. The majority of the world enjoyed the movie (more than 89 Batman) and there's nothing you can do to change that.

My problem is the movie is heralded as some great film, already said 89 is a great film, it was good for what it was meant to be

people actually the dark knight a crime drama

also other super hero movies have plots, straight forward and simple, but plots

the dark knight doesn't have a plot

 

[Master Teacher]

too edgy for me

try harder

point out on lie

the truth is the truth, stanning doesn't change reality

the movie is too long, boring, and doesn't make sense

 

[Uncle_Ruckus]

the dark knight doesn't have a plot

One year after the events of Batman Begins, Batman, Gordon, and the new DA, Harvey Dent plan to launch an attack on the mob by arresting the shady accountant of the mob, Lau. Lau is abducted from his building by Batman and is thrown into jail. Lau divulges the secrets which results in almost all the mob bosses thrown in jail. The desperate mob bosses turn to the Joker, a sadistic psycopath with green hair, completely yellow teeth and a custom purple suit. The acts of Joker produces anarchy and chaos of in the people of Gotham forcing Batman to Come to terms to which may seem to be his greatest test to fight injustice and come closer to the fine line between hero and vigilante.

How is that not a plot?

 

[Master Teacher]

One year after the events of Batman Begins, Batman, Gordon, and the new DA, Harvey Dent plan to launch an attack on the mob by arresting the shady accountant of the mob, Lau. Lau is abducted from his building by Batman and is thrown into jail. Lau divulges the secrets which results in almost all the mob bosses thrown in jail. The desperate mob bosses turn to the Joker, a sadistic psycopath with green hair, completely yellow teeth and a custom purple suit. The Joker kills a judge,the commissioner of police and tries to kill the Mayor and Harvey. The acts of Joker produces anarchy and chaos of in the people of Gotham forcing Batman to Come to terms to which may seem to be his greatest test to fight injustice and come clser to the fine line between hero and vigilante.

How is that not a plot?

what You are describing is a summary of the film not the plot

 

[The Order 1886]

point out on lie

the truth is the truth, stanning doesn't change reality

the movie is too long, boring, and doesn't make sense

the truth is that your in the EXTREME minority and your opinion isn't backed enough to the point where it holds validity

 

[Uncle_Ruckus]

You are describing is a summary of the film not the plot

Fine then. Now let's read 89 Batman's plot....

In Gotham City, a dark knight known as Batman helps to defeat evil and keep the city's citizens safe. When Jack Napier is transformed into the evil, Joker, he promises to take over Gotham City it is up to Batman to stop him in his tracks before it is too late.

You're telling me that is more of a plot than TDK??? You're lying to yourself if you think it is.

 

[Master Teacher]

the truth is that your in the EXTREME minority and your opinion isn't backed enough to the point where it holds validity

Independence day made nearly one billion dollars

doesn't mean it's not a shytty film

comic nerds like anything comic book related
which is fine, just don't call this terrible movies great

 

[The Order 1886]

what You are describing is a summary of the film not the plot

plot-
"the main events of a play, novel, movie, or similar work, devised and presented by the writer as an interrelated sequence"

 

[The Order 1886]

Independence day made nearly one billion dollars

doesn't mean it's not a shytty film

comic nerds like anything comic book related
which is fine, just don't call this terrible movies great

why are bringing up sales? Independence Day isn't regarded as a great movie

almost everyone (including comic book nerds) hated Fantastic 4 films and the last spiderman

 

[Uncle_Ruckus]

plot-
"the main events of a play, novel, movie, or similar work, devised and presented by the writer as an interrelated sequence"

Theres so much plot in TDK this idiot @Master Teacher can't handle it.

 

[Drew Wonder]

Props to @Master Teacher
I completely disagree with him but at least he's giving actual objective arguments regarding why he thinks Batman '89 is better. none of that bullshyt "you weren't there," "you don't understand the cultural significance," "you don't know how it made me feel when I was a kid" bullshyt that has NOTHING to do with actual cinematic quality and everything to do with nostalgia and the older generation's REFUSAL to give the current generation credit for anything. It's like yeah muthafukkas, we'll admit the music, sports, movies and experience of being a kid was better back then but got damn, can you give this generation credit for ANYTHING?
what's funny is if message boards were around back in 89, I bet you'd have a bunch of dudes talking about how Burton's movie was trash compared to the Adam West Batman because it was too serious, wasn't fun enough and didn't give them a nostalgia boner

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

It makes no sense to think that at 1989 movie would be more revered than a 2008 in 30-40 years. I just turned 20 a few months ago and Batman 1989 never crossed my mind when i thought about Great movies/ classic movies. The fact that TDK is held in such high regard now and will always be is not due to trivial qualities such as the bat-mobile, it's because of the overall quality of the movie. If you are an adult and are legit claiming a movie to be a bonafide classic movie purely based on Nostalgia then you lose a significant amount of validity in your opinion/ point.Why would newer generational kids even feel nostalgia towards batman 1989 anyway? Part of nostalgia is being there and being apart of whatever it is you are nostalgic about.

i am not claiming batman 89 to be a classic based purely on nostalgia, i am claiming it to be a classic on the grounds that it is a fukkin classic. i can say with confidence that more people from our age bracket have seen batman 89 than almost any other movie made since that time. at best the list is very, VERY short. it is a movie that if someone were to tell you they haven't seen, you almost have to look at them differently. it was that popular and that much of a landmark movie. so much so that 25 years later is still regularly broadcasted on various cable networks several times a year.

and newer generational kids will feel nostalgia about it the same way people still feel nostalgia about a movie like star wars. i doubt anyone here was old enough to experience the first initial theater run but nonetheless when we watch those movies it puts us in a place mentally where things were simpler and more jovial. somehwere in america right now there is a young girl watching wizard of oz for the first time and that experience will stick with her for the remainder of her days.






from the opening sequence alone the movie draws you in and mesmerizes you. as a kid seeing that for the first time you have no choice but to feel excited and worship that symbol.

these are the things that stick with you. not tedious sublots about crooked mob accountants, or theoretical debates about order and chaos. it's the little things. it's seeing batman in the shadows that first time as he creeps up on those purse snatchers. it's seeing that sweet ass batmobile with the remote controlled armor. it's seeing batman pilot the batwing atop the gotham skyline. it's the look, and the feel, and the music. you got batman on one side and you got joker on the other. easy to follow, easy to digest. it's simple. every kid can identify and understand it.

dark knight is obviously the more ambitious piece, but i believe that when it comes to chidren... batman 89 will always remain the more memorable and unforgettable experience.

 

[Master Teacher]

Theres so much plot in TDK this idiot @Master Teacher can't handle it.

You don't understand what plot is

You should be able to tell what the plot of the movie is, WITHOUT TELLING ME WHAT HAPPENED SCENE FROM SCENE

what they guy did was spoil the movie for me if I hadn't seen it already

The story is what happens, the plot is what the film is about, you should be able to tell me that without stating all the events that happen in the movie,

the Dark Knight isn't about anything, it's just a series of events stringed together, it's a story

 

[MartyMcFly]

You don't understand what plot is

You should be able to tell what the plot of the movie is, WITHOUT TELLING ME WHAT HAPPENED SCENE FROM SCENE

what they guy did was spoil the movie for me if I hadn't seen it already

The story is what happens, the plot is what the film is about, you should be able to tell me that without stating all the events that happen in the movie,

the Dark Knight isn't about anything, it's just a series of events stringed together, it's a story

I'd disagree breh. It's about Batman's continued war with organized crime and the mob bringing in the joker. Is that not the plot?